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A Tasmanian team would have to play 12 games in those conditions. Not 2 or 3.
As an extension of that, do you not see problems with keeping young interstate talent ? Is the young gun from WA, Brisbane, Shepparton, Melbourne that you drafted gonna be all that inclined to wanna stay in cold, little ole Hobart for any longer than the minimum 2 years Snakes ? Travelling up and down to Launceston and around the state ? You reckon the GC has problems on that front. It’s got 1 million people in that corridor with glorious beaches and 22 degree weather for 6 months of the year and still has issues. That’ll be amplified for a Tasmanian team Snakes.
The list of issues is extensive Snakes.
This is all very shortsighted. By 2040 Tassie will be a temperate paradise while Melbourne has the climate of either Cairns or Alice Springs and SE Qld is underwater. Tassie will have a population in the millions and boat people will be arriving by the day from unliveable hellholes like Sydney and Perth.
Of course, no one will give a *smile* about footy anymore.
Of course, no one will give a *smile* about footy anymore.
Heh heh heh….we’ll can it bloody hurry up then Casper!!!! The last three weeks here have been insane.
Chimpley reckons the records show you have to go back to 1949 (when he was born) before you can find a colder 3 week stretch.
I made that point re Ballarat, maybe you're right, but I'm not convinced. It is a factor, but it can be managed. There is what 25-30-odd Tassie players now? (I'm guessing), almost a lists worth. Some of them would be happy to be out of there, some would be happy to go home. Plenty of non-tas players would be fine there for 10 years to carve a career. 11 games in Tassie v 11 games in Geelong isn't a dramatic difference. Just like in the real world, some people are happy moving and trying new things for livelihood, some people pine for home and wont.
And Tassie is getting cool.
GC has the best weather in the world and they struggle to keep players.
Its a factor, but nowhere near a dealbreaker IMO.
But 25-30 Tasmanian players drafted to the system over a dozen years doesn’t mean anything Snakes. You have to have the best talent you can acquire from around the entire country to be successful and compete. Brisbane isn’t made up of 25-30 Queenslanders.
Half the Geelong team lives in Melbourne or at least have properties there (I used to live above Tom Hawkins) and the other half are only 60 mins away from a world class 5 million metropolis.
The Geelong comparisons (and the Jackjumpers) are so far off beam it’s not funny.
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I don't think you read the post. I was just making the point that Tassie will have a local critical mass of players far higher than the NRL states, 10 or maybe 15? I see that as an advantage, you apparently see it as a disadvantage, fine.
I'll say it again, not all players have to be in a metropolis, and even some who do will be fine plying their trade elsewhere for a footy career. I reckon you could make up a decent side, maybe 2, of country boys who will be happy to go home to the bush once their senior career is done. Its not like its Siberia, climatically or geographically. That Geelong comparison I made was in regards to the weather, and the weather only. 12 games at KP v 12 games in Tassie, is it really that different climate-wise? Taking out all other factors?
I Know exactly what your saying but you can’t rely on that. The production line is very very limited. It’s not like WA or SA or even Queensland or NSW that pump out players because of their population.
When you say critical mass v the NRL states are you aware of how many more players come via NSW or Queensland v Tasmania now ?
No I'm not, I'd be interested to hear. I know QLD is on the rise, but dunno how much.
edit, just check Bris list, 8 QLD players, definitely on the rise.
Production line would be less limited with an AFL side I reckon.
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Someone - might have even been Nobets - posted it the other day. Figuratively It’s like a small handful the last 10 years v dozens in NSW and Queensland due to the growth of the game and the academies.
Granted, maybe a Tasmanian academy can produce players as well but that’s still gonna be a limited equation due to population size and will take decades to develop given the current poor state of junior football in Tasmania as Jim mentioned. And there’s still that geo issue with junior footy too. Northern kids would have to re locate to Hobart.
A Tassie team can’t take 10-12 years to make finals. It’ll die if that happens. It’s gotta be playing within 5 years or so. 5 years in will be the key measurement point after the initial first year excitement is over.
Hey zips - can you find a date when it got to -5 deg in Hobart. This weekend is a shocker weather wise, but I think this southerly low is hitting Melb as well, we have snow on the mountain now and it may snow down to 200m tonight and I can guarantee you it won’t get to -5 in the city. It will be lucky to get to zero tbh.
Why capacity of 40k for a stadium - that won’t work - how long have the cats had a 40k seat stadium - zero years from memory.
The stadium is a ruse - Blundstone arena is fine, it is of standard to host test matches and AFL matches now, what’s changed.
The AFL have changed the goal posts, thats what’s changed.
Your right - but I have dealt with the AFL when I lived in Melb for nearly 20 years and I had quite a lot of dealings with the AFL when I was working on the Comm Games and in international trade.
They were appalling to work with, you couldn’t trust them, they were highly unprofessional, manipulative, self interested and unaccountable - and this culture existed for at least the 6 years I was involved in international sport development.
So what I am observing now in regards to a Tassie team is not a surprise - they don’t know what they are doing, will say one thing but do something completely different and will change their mind as quick as you can fart after eating a second hand sausage.
So yes, I am really frustrated because they are leading a whole state up that garden path pretending it will happen.
Rants over - but I am enjoying the debate here.
True I want a club in tassie.
One of the best places I've been is Tasmania. It's a great place.
Make the club great, attractive and the envy of the competition.
Build a stadium. Make it just for the club.
The AFL are currently run by the poorest administrators in the history of the game.
People like Benny Gale, Riewoldt and many others will make the Tasmania new club.
The best it possibly be. Good competitive team, good finances and a state of art facilities.
Do it once, learn from GC and GWS and make it better.
I've been to tasse 8 degrees does feel much like -5.
Old bones.
This is not all about money. If everything was all about money then there would be no money in a football code limited to one small country miles from anywhere, if it was only about money we would all be playing that Johnnie come lately game they call association football - far more money in that.
This is about culture, it is about community, it is about the vibe - Tassie needs a football team.
The best way to do this would be to remove one of the current teams and that will mean a Victorian team unfortunately, or maybe merge 2 Victorian teams.
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This is about culture, it is about community, it is about the vibe - Tassie needs a football team.
The best way to do this would be to remove one of the current teams and that will mean a Victorian team unfortunately, or maybe merge 2 Victorian teams.
DS
Essendon and Norf. We could get them both up to ‘mediocre’ level I think.
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It's only rained twice since I came up to the Northern Rivers in December - the first time for 61 days and the second for 47 days.
The skies have finally cleared and the last week the days have been glorious. Not a cloud in the sky. 20 degrees (22 forecast for Wednesday). The nights are freezing but we're all happy to live with that trade-off.
