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Shane Edwards

tigersnake

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Nah mate, couldn't be more serious. MRJ pressure when he came on was good.

We are carrying Shedda. And he absolutely deserves it the champ, but he's giving us zero
he did not give us zero. This is lynch mob scapegoating bulldust. It wouldn't matter what he did, the posts would be the same. To the eye it was a solid/ OK game. I looked at the stats and they back that up. Not world beating, not peak Shedda, but not zero, and not a man down. PRE *smile* me right off sometimes, players are either *smile* or superstars, there's no in between. Its crap.
 
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he did not give us zero. This is lynch mob scapegoating bulldust. It wouldn't matter what he did, the posts would be the same. To the eye it was a solid/ OK game. I looked at the stats and they back that up. Not world beating, not peak Shedda, but not zero, and not a man down. PRE *smile* me right off sometimes, players are either *smile* or superstars, there's no in between. Its crap.
Disagree. We have a lot of very average players.
 

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he did not give us zero. This is lynch mob scapegoating bulldust. It wouldn't matter what he did, the posts would be the same. To the eye it was a solid/ OK game. I looked at the stats and they back that up. Not world beating, not peak Shedda, but not zero, and not a man down. PRE *smile* me right off sometimes, players are either *smile* or superstars, there's no in between. Its crap.
Appreciate your passion TS always. I love Shedda too.

Realistically though, he's been poor this season.

And had very little impact tonight.

He will get to 300 and be rightfully celebrated, but after that it's time to get games into Judson Clarke and MRJ.
 
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tigersnake

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Appreciate your passion TS always. I love Shedda too.

Realistically though, he's been poor this season.

And had very little impact tonight.

He will get to 300 and be rightfully celebrated, but after that it's time to get games into Judson Clarke and MRJ.
I have never denied he has been poor this season. I've argued about how poor and what the alternatives are. I'm the idiot for thinking there might be any chance of decent analysis when we lose.
 

RoarEmotion

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Was at the game and he was ok/below average.

Set up sonsie I think for his snap.

Put soldo into 15 metres of space with eyes in the back of his head but as the ball didn’t sit up he (soldo) needed 25 metres.

He’s batting 20-25 now though in the current squad and with the full squad available and fit shouldn’t be on the park.
 
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Nah mate, couldn't be more serious. MRJ pressure when he came on was good.

We are carrying Shedda. And he absolutely deserves it the champ, but he's giving us zero

Edwards is not giving us zero at all. MJR's pressure was more noticeable because he came on fresh in the last quarter. While pressure is his one wood, he hasn't been finding enough footy in the full games he has played. It's a fallacy to suggest that MJR matches Shedda's output across a full game at this point in time. Hopefully that does eventually occur, but Jnr has a long way to go in his development before he matches even an aging Shedda's output.
 
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Mycotchinrules

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I have never denied he has been poor this season. I've argued about how poor and what the alternatives are. I'm the idiot for thinking there might be any chance of decent analysis when we lose.
Nah I think with finals a possibility you still have to roll the dice on a 3 time premiership legend and hope/pray he comes good.

Lambo a bit in the same category, but it just hasn't eventuated. And now it's costing us development for the kids.

We're not winning the flag this year. So our mindset has to change.

I meant no disrespect to you or Shedda
 

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Edwards is not giving us zero at all. MJR's pressure was more noticeable because he came on fresh in the last quarter. While pressure is his one wood, he hasn't been finding enough footy in the full games he has played. It's a fallacy to suggest that MJR matches Shedda's output across a full game at this point in time. Hopefully that does eventually occur, but Jnr has a long way to go in his development before he matches even an aging Shedda's output.
But one player is trending upwards and the other is trending downwards.

Depends on where the club realistically thinks they are at.

I know who I'd be selecting.
 

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But one player is trending upwards and the other is trending downwards.

Depends on where the club realistically thinks they are at.

I know who I'd be selecting.

Depends if we think we're in finals contention or rebuild mode.
And based on recent performance it's fair enough to think perhaps we should be focusing on rebuild. But no one was thinking that 8 weeks ago, we were sitting pretty inside the 8 and looking like we were going to make finals comfortably

Now we're scrapping for it everyone's looking for a scapegoat and Shedwards is target number 1. I don't think it's fair and the criticism outweighs the negatives of his output this season.
 
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mrposhman

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he did not give us zero. This is lynch mob scapegoating bulldust. It wouldn't matter what he did, the posts would be the same. To the eye it was a solid/ OK game. I looked at the stats and they back that up. Not world beating, not peak Shedda, but not zero, and not a man down. PRE *smile* me right off sometimes, players are either *smile* or superstars, there's no in between. Its crap.

Sorry TS, appreciate the support you give Shedda, but he was horrible tonight. I got home and looked at the stats and was shocked to see he touched it 15 times. Sonsie has far more influence on the game than Sheds did. The ball seemed to just sail over his head most of the night.

I just don't think he can complete the role he is being asked to do and thats on Dimma and the selection committee. He should have been told tonight to stay not more than 10m away from our deepest tall forward.
 
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Sorry TS, appreciate the support you give Shedda, but he was horrible tonight. I got home and looked at the stats and was shocked to see he touched it 15 times. Sonsie has far more influence on the game than Sheds did. The ball seemed to just sail over his head most of the night.

I just don't think he can complete the role he is being asked to do and thats on Dimma and the selection committee. He should have been told tonight to stay not more than 10m away from our deepest tall forward.
So you thought was horrible and then were shocked to see he had 15 touches? OK
 

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Wasn't horrible.

15 touches, 4 contested, 53% DE. Thats pretty horrible mate, and I have no idea when he actually got these possessions. He's an attacking mid, and had 1 score involvement for the whole game.

He's also lost almost all of his speed now. As I said, he's being asked to play a role that he simply cannot fulfil anymore.
 

tigersnake

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15 touches, 4 contested, 53% DE. Thats pretty horrible mate, and I have no idea when he actually got these possessions. He's an attacking mid, and had 1 score involvement for the whole game.

He's also lost almost all of his speed now. As I said, he's being asked to play a role that he simply cannot fulfil anymore.
Well if you want to talk raw numbers, Graham, Nank, Pickett, Sonsie, were more horrible, and D Rioli and Short knocking on the door.

But, Shedda is the whipping boy de jour, so carry on.
 

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Well if you want to talk raw numbers, Graham, Nank, Pickett, Sonsie, were more horrible, and D Rioli and Short knocking on the door.

But, Shedda is the whipping boy de jour, so carry on.

Mate, go to the game and see for yourself. I'll hazard a guess he looks a lot better on screen.

Tonight he was very poor and it wasn't the raw numbers, you were just spruiking the numbers as some sort of validation. I haven't been on the bandwagon like everyone else as I've always known Shedda can pull a good game out of it, but it sure wasn't tonight. Sonsie had way more influence on the game than Edwards did tonight. Graham was down but influenced a lot more defensively. Nank was a statue and the worst player on the ground. Pickett was ok tonight, good defensively.

Shedda has never been a whipping boy for me so don't start throwing that old chestnut out there, there are some that have had him as the whipping boy for a long time, find a post before tonight where I have been bagging him before giving it to me for bagging his game out.

He was poor and along with Nank were the worst players on the ground for us. If you also read my posts I'm not necessarily bagging him for that, I'll say it again HE'S BEING ASKED TO PLAY A ROLE THAT HE CAN NO LONGER FULFIL.

But of course, go ahead and throw it back at me that I have him as my whipping boy. Aarts and Castagna are my whipping boys and rightfully so.
 
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Mate, go to the game and see for yourself. I'll hazard a guess he looks a lot better on screen.

Tonight he was very poor and it wasn't the raw numbers, you were just spruiking the numbers as some sort of validation. I haven't been on the bandwagon like everyone else as I've always known Shedda can pull a good game out of it, but it sure wasn't tonight. Sonsie had way more influence on the game than Edwards did tonight. Graham was down but influenced a lot more defensively. Nank was a statue and the worst player on the ground. Pickett was ok tonight, good defensively.

Shedda has never been a whipping boy for me so don't start throwing that old chestnut out there, there are some that have had him as the whipping boy for a long time, find a post before tonight where I have been bagging him before giving it to me for bagging his game out.

He was poor and along with Nank were the worst players on the ground for us. If you also read my posts I'm not necessarily bagging him for that, I'll say it again HE'S BEING ASKED TO PLAY A ROLE THAT HE CAN NO LONGER FULFIL.

But of course, go ahead and throw it back at me that I have him as my whipping boy. Aarts and Castagna are my whipping boys and rightfully so.
you went raw numbers not me.
 

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Yep, I'm sure he'll be remembered as that sublime reader of the play, and the handball that you don't notice at the game but blows your mind on the replay.

3 time premiership hero, and he contributed in every one significantly.

I don't wanna remember the passenger on display last night. Been poor all season.

It's an indictment on our development that there's nobody banging the door down to replace him.
Sonsie banged the door down.
With a full squad Ross and the Sonz would be in the door before Shedda