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2021 Draft Thread
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Good summary. I've been a fan of JVR and Oscar Allen has been my comparison the entire time. Whatever JVR lacks in elite athletic traits he makes up for competitiveness and smarts. He just wants to be involved. I'm fine with him at 15. I actually think the Ealges at 10 are a huge chance to grab him.
Yep, I made that point earlier with picks in the 50s, just as much chance landing gold in the rookie draft.
Hi Bullus
sorry mate, I have asked your thoughts on a few players and read your post y/day which incl a few sentences about Goater.
Are you able to share a little more on Goater and how you rate his potential/skills/best position. Having watched his highlights incl some Youtube stuff a few times today (first time I've focused on him), he's better than what I thought he would be.
TBH, even a few of his very clever, instinctive handballs reminded me of the best handballs from Shane Edwards. Pace, great kick, great instincts I thought.
What do you think of him Bullus?
sorry mate, I have asked your thoughts on a few players and read your post y/day which incl a few sentences about Goater.
Are you able to share a little more on Goater and how you rate his potential/skills/best position. Having watched his highlights incl some Youtube stuff a few times today (first time I've focused on him), he's better than what I thought he would be.
TBH, even a few of his very clever, instinctive handballs reminded me of the best handballs from Shane Edwards. Pace, great kick, great instincts I thought.
What do you think of him Bullus?
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If we were to land Johnson you could actually make an excellent case for getting Van Rooyen as well, always smart to get a traveling buddy.
Yeah it's, becoming more commonplace. Rivers and Jackson from Melbourne is a masterstroke example of this. Thick as thieves.
The Johnson and Cerra comparison has made me think twice on Johnson. I can see a bit of that, laconic almost crusiey style of getting around the park. I'm not so down on taking him with our first pick first.
I really like Goater, I like the way he takes the game on, very daring, not afraid to take a bounce, not shy about climbing on shoulders, and most importantly, not afraid to drill a ball 50 metres. He can be hot and cold with the kicking but when he's on he can put in a flawless display. Whether the consistency can be improved is the only real question mark but I think he's an upgrade on McIntosh if he doesn't cut it in the midfield. The handballing has actually been sharp in the engine room, his kicking can look a bit rushed at times but certainly better than some mids going around and his marking ability is strong. I think the gap between his upside & downside is significant but some clubs like Port & Essendon don't mind a project type so I think he'll be snapped up in the top dozen. Reckon we would have to take him at 9.
Yes it does, its a great app actually, been using it for years.
Cheers Bullus. You've summed up fantastically well - 'sharp handballing' is spot on.
His run and bouncing from the backline reminded me a bit of Lachie Whitfield and centre mid handballing was Shane Edwards-like.
I dont think he is a 'type' we have on our list at the moment - maybe Balta's ability to run and bounce and kick 60m. And maybe Short.
Haaarrrgh. Who's a greedy bastard then. Done all the fancy footwork to get to this position in the draft, now just gotta do the easy bit n not *smile* up the picks.
I agree with Goater and trust me i wont be too upset if we selected him with our pick #7 (9)
The thing with players like Goater who has shown at junior level to be able to find the ball is that when they have attributes like Speed agility leap and 'grunt' they usually become best 22 players. Provided they can and have the ability to find the ball in the midfield which he appears to have.
I get the feeling that he will be on Essendon & Syndeys wish list
The Big Footy Phantom so certainly no intel from clubs involved in that one.
Pretty sure someone records how high the kid jumped in a little note book somewhere. Recruiter could just snaffle a look in the book while no-one was paying attention.
Far more important to know how a kid actually plays footy, fancy numbers for controlled running n jumping that are not even match competitive are fairly meh. Good commercial for AFLHQ to pretend relevance when there's no footy being played.
I'd break it down like this:
A Class: King Kong, Redford. Bob, bengal_tigs,
B Class: bullus_hit
C Class: Brodders17, Spook
LOL - just jokes bullus! Its only cause u like Sonsie and dislike Gibcus!
The more I assess the various strengths of the draft, the more I'm leaning towards a WA combo for our first two picks, that ensures we get a tall midfielder and ensures we get a swingman, it also comes with a good insurance policy for the go home factor.
9. Johnson (tall midfielder0
17. van Rooyen (key defensive swingman)
From here it gets interesting, mainly due to the fact I want an outside runner. So my suggestion would be to package some picks in the twenties for pick19 and wait for one of Sinn, Wanganeen-Milera or Chesser to drop.
19. Sinn (rebounding defender/wingman)
I'm slightly favouring Sinn here although it's a close call, I just think he's the best bet for Houli's position and that's where the gap is. Then with the last pick I would pick the best player left out of Taylor, Butler, McDonald & Sheldrick.
28. Taylor (rounded midfielder)
I would be very confident to get three core players from this list & I think there's scope to get at least one A grader. I think grabbing a swingman as opposed to two key position players also makes sense, particularly in a midfielders draft.
9. Johnson (tall midfielder0
17. van Rooyen (key defensive swingman)
From here it gets interesting, mainly due to the fact I want an outside runner. So my suggestion would be to package some picks in the twenties for pick19 and wait for one of Sinn, Wanganeen-Milera or Chesser to drop.
19. Sinn (rebounding defender/wingman)
I'm slightly favouring Sinn here although it's a close call, I just think he's the best bet for Houli's position and that's where the gap is. Then with the last pick I would pick the best player left out of Taylor, Butler, McDonald & Sheldrick.
28. Taylor (rounded midfielder)
I would be very confident to get three core players from this list & I think there's scope to get at least one A grader. I think grabbing a swingman as opposed to two key position players also makes sense, particularly in a midfielders draft.
I think they are aiming to get both.
Maybe they will take Erasmus first, but if they think Johnson rather than Erasmus is more likely to be taken by us, they may take Johnson.
Both look excellent prospects.
Quick players often rush or appear to rush kicks - it goes with the territory of being quick. It can be worked on and improved if the kid is receptive to instruction and has a reasonable footy IQ. I have no real idea about junior footy talent but I thought his highlight package showed some superior traits that are much harder to teach.
Nice work Bullus. I just read about an interesting three way trade by a Freo supporter that involved the Tigers, Freo and GWS. Basically it ended up that we would swap 7, 15 and 26 for 2 and 19. Of course pick 19 is the first pick on the second night so it could be highly sought after. Would you like this trade or happier to keep what we have ?
