Adem Yze

[Dyer'ere]

At the end of the season Benny gave Yze a bit of a slap. "Took a back seat"? Was that it? It wan't praise.

RFC accountants have already budgeted for 2025. It won't be good. The fans are still getting used to the dismal prospects and will sack the coach relentlessly. But eh. Wins/losses. Easy numbers to read.

It'll probably be 2025 that RFC makes a very informed decision on Adem Yze. A balanced decision. Is he doing enough with the youth? Fundamentals? Does he have a vision that can take us somewhere? If yes got to Z. If no can we survive until we find someone with such a vision?

It won't be wins/losses. But RFC is measuring Adem Yze.

 

[Cooper O'Reilly]

At the end of the season Benny gave Yze a bit of a slap. "Took a back seat"? Was that it? It wan't praise.

RFC accountants have already budgeted for 2025. It won't be good. The fans are still getting used to the dismal prospects and will sack the coach relentlessly. But eh. Wins/losses. Easy numbers to read.

It'll probably be 2025 that RFC makes a very informed decision on Adem Yze. A balanced decision. Is he doing enough with the youth? Fundamentals? Does he have a vision that can take us somewhere? If yes got to Z. If no can we survive until we find someone with such a vision?

It won't be wins/losses. But RFC is measuring Adem Yze.

Sack Yze at the end of 2025 and see who applies for the job.....it would just be the desperadoes who would apply for any job .

Nobody of any quality would want the job if we treated Yze so poorly. Ordinary list, 3 of our better players leave at the end of year one, ground zero of a full rebuild, president and CEO gone and we sack the coach after year 2. Hallmarks of a club that is in disarray.

Back to the bad old days.

For those death riding Yze be careful. You might just get what you wish for!

 

[Dyer'ere]

Sack Yze at the end of 2025 and see who applies for the job.....it would just be the desperadoes who would apply for any job .

Nobody of any quality would want the job if we treated Yze so poorly. Ordinary list, 3 of our better players leave at the end of year one, ground zero of a full rebuild, president and CEO gone and we sack the coach after year 2. Hallmarks of a club that is in disarray.

Back to the bad old days.

For those death riding Yze be careful. You might just get what you wish for!

We won't sack, Yze, Cooper.

 

[Bunnyman]

At the end of the season Benny gave Yze a bit of a slap. "Took a back seat"? Was that it? It wan't praise.

RFC accountants have already budgeted for 2025. It won't be good. The fans are still getting used to the dismal prospects and will sack the coach relentlessly. But eh. Wins/losses. Easy numbers to read.

It'll probably be 2025 that RFC makes a very informed decision on Adem Yze. A balanced decision. Is he doing enough with the youth? Fundamentals? Does he have a vision that can take us somewhere? If yes got to Z. If no can we survive until we find someone with such a vision?

It won't be wins/losses. But RFC is measuring Adem Yze.

Maybe it was just me, but I didnt interpret it as a slap.
I think the comment details Gales understanding of the nuances of coming into a club with recent dynasty and tenderly managing future club immortals energy levels and ensuring their milestone games and looming exits happen uber respectfully while trying to inject some level of urgency and play all the youth and stamp his mark as coach and game style on the group. There was never anyway to do both to 100%. Even with all of our injuries.
I get the feeling when Brendan spoke he was always really confident in their choice of ooze, the same way they were confident in their choice of Dimma (when the AFL world wanted him gone).
All the major milestones and exits have tempered now, and Yze can grab the reigns untethered.

 

[TigerFurious]

Sack Yze at the end of 2025 and see who applies for the job.....it would just be the desperadoes who would apply for any job .

Nobody of any quality would want the job if we treated Yze so poorly. Ordinary list, 3 of our better players leave at the end of year one, ground zero of a full rebuild, president and CEO gone and we sack the coach after year 2. Hallmarks of a club that is in disarray.

Back to the bad old days.

For those death riding Yze be careful. You might just get what you wish for!

Yze will likely survive into 2026 but that’s when it gets really interesting.

No club, not even ours, is immune from the pressure that comes with poor onfield results and Yze has just presided over the worst onfield season in the clubs history. You can come out with all the excuses for why that happened but it doesn’t change the fact his win loss record is currently 2-21 and unlikely to improve much from that with recent list changes.

Unless he can show marked improvement in 2025 and 2026 he and the club will come under immense pressure and the obvious release for that is to replace the coach. If or when that happens, there will be no shortage of suitors lined up to replace him either.

It’s not my intention death ride Yze. I just believe that he took on the worst list in the league at the worst possible time and through largely no fault of his own, will be made the scapegoat for it.

 

[Sintiger]

Yze will likely survive into 2026 but that’s when it gets really interesting.

No club, not even ours, is immune from the pressure that comes with poor onfield results and Yze has just presided over the worst onfield season in the clubs history. You can come out with all the excuses for why that happened but it doesn’t change the fact his win loss record is currently 2-21 and unlikely to improve much from that with recent list changes.

Unless he can show marked improvement in 2025 and 2026 he and the club will come under immense pressure and the obvious release for that is to replace the coach. If or when that happens, there will be no shortage of suitors lined up to replace him either.

It’s not my intention death ride Yze. I just believe that he took on the worst list in the league at the worst possible time and through largely no fault of his own, will be made the scapegoat for it.

It wasn’t just the list it was also the worst injury crisis probably ever seen at the club.
Ooze got hit by the perfect storm
His team now

 

[IanG]

It wasn’t just the list it was also the worst injury crisis probably ever seen at the club.

Has any club had a worse injury season?

 

[Sintiger]

Has any club had a worse injury season?

Maybe west coast in whatever year it was ? 2021 or 2022? They struggled to field a team at times.

I’m not aware that Richmond has had a worse injury hit season.

 

[IanG]

Maybe west coast in whatever year it was ? 2021 or 2022? They struggled to field a team at times.

I’ve not aware that Richmond has had a worse injury hit season.

I think our year this year was slightly worse than West Coast's but that maybe my bias.

 

[HKTigerB]

Maybe it was just me, but I didnt interpret it as a slap.
I think the comment details Gales understanding of the nuances of coming into a club with recent dynasty and tenderly managing future club immortals energy levels and ensuring their milestone games and looming exits happen uber respectfully while trying to inject some level of urgency and play all the youth and stamp his mark as coach and game style on the group. There was never anyway to do both to 100%. Even with all of our injuries.
I get the feeling when Brendan spoke he was always really confident in their choice of ooze, the same way they were confident in their choice of Dimma (when the AFL world wanted him gone).
All the major milestones and exits have tempered now, and Yze can grab the reigns untethered.

Agree. I thought Benny's comment was more along the lines of Adem "stood back a little" (was possibly too much an observer) initially.

In a briefing we got from Adem he actually acknowledged this in a round about way. He discussed his observations and acknowledged that he needed to change (to some degree) and drive change. That briefing was done during the mid season bye week. Tim was there and encouraged him to open up.

As has been posted ad nauseum, training did change post the mid-season break along with some elements of the gameplan.

And we have mused (endlessly) about whether this was when some guys bought into the future and some opted out.

I'm OS at the moment but will be back in early Dec and will get down to training (if @caesar allows me to ) just to see what has changed.

So I see it more he may have been a little "passive" (for want of the right term) initially but now needs to drive and initial interviews indicate that is starting to occur. Time will tell.

 

[artball]

Agree. I thought Benny's comment was more along the lines of Adem "stood back a little" (was possibly too much an observer) initially.

In a briefing we got from Adem he actually acknowledged this in a round about way. He discussed his observations and acknowledged that he needed to change (to some degree) and drive change. That briefing was done during the mid season bye week. Tim was there and encouraged him to open up.

agree.. my only dis on Yze is that he needed a bit of a personality transplant...

and that will happen with time - which he's had - and comfort - which is closer...

 

[Larrikin]

I think our year this year was slightly worse than West Coast's but that maybe my bias.

I think ours was the worst ever not just by the sheer number of injuries to both key and young players, but they all happened from round 2 to round 10. If teams are unlucky to have this many injuries in a season, they are usually spread out and only near the end of the season they struggle to field a team. Richmond getting to that stage half way through the season is unprecedented.

Sometimes they say out of something bad, something good can come. That could begin from draft day and getting all our boys back on the pack again.

 

[TigerMasochist]

Yze will likely survive into 2026 but that’s when it gets really interesting.

No club, not even ours, is immune from the pressure that comes with poor onfield results and Yze has just presided over the worst onfield season in the clubs history. You can come out with all the excuses for why that happened but it doesn’t change the fact his win loss record is currently 2-21 and unlikely to improve much from that with recent list changes.

Unless he can show marked improvement in 2025 and 2026 he and the club will come under immense pressure and the obvious release for that is to replace the coach. If or when that happens, there will be no shortage of suitors lined up to replace him either.

It’s not my intention death ride Yze. I just believe that he took on the worst list in the league at the worst possible time and through largely no fault of his own, will be made the scapegoat for it.

Win loss ratio for next year will be irrelevant, but the emergence of a visible game structure / system and competitive periods / games during the second half of the year will be a minimum requirement. 2026 it will be a solidifying of the game plan, longer competitive periods and growth to around the 5 to 8 win mark. 2027 we might be able to start dreaming about sneaking around the door of the 8.

 

[TigerPort]

I think ours was the worst ever not just by the sheer number of injuries to both key and young players, but they all happened from round 2 to round 10. If teams are unlucky to have this many injuries in a season, they are usually spread out and only near the end of the season they struggle to field a team. Richmond getting to that stage half way through the season is unprecedented.

Sometimes they say out of something bad, something good can come. That could begin from draft day and getting all our boys back on the pack again.

Looking purely at the number of ACLs. Generally you might get 1 or 2 ACLs in a 5 year period. We got 5 in 4 months.

Agree it was the worse injury period

 

[TigerPort]

Agree. I thought Benny's comment was more along the lines of Adem "stood back a little" (was possibly too much an observer) initially.

In a briefing we got from Adem he actually acknowledged this in a round about way. He discussed his observations and acknowledged that he needed to change (to some degree) and drive change. That briefing was done during the mid season bye week. Tim was there and encouraged him to open up.

As has been posted ad nauseum, training did change post the mid-season break along with some elements of the gameplan.

And we have mused (endlessly) about whether this was when some guys bought into the future and some opted out.

I'm OS at the moment but will be back in early Dec and will get down to training (if @caesar allows me to ) just to see what has changed.

So I see it more he may have been a little "passive" (for want of the right term) initially but now needs to drive and initial interviews indicate that is starting to occur. Time will tell.

First year coach heading into a season with half the list on the way out and the other half not fully developed.

Yze was always going to take his time to assess the players we had and tweak a game plan to suit. His main aim would have been to evaluate the kids and it would have been counter productive to the long term if he went all guns a blazing. He needed to stand back and assess.

The high injury list was actually a blessing in disguise as we were forced to give the kids more time than we would have normally allowed. That should pay dividends through 2025

For 2025 you are right that he now needs to drive the team in the direction of our next premiership. Don't care about wins for 2025 just want to see growth in the kids already on the list and the development of the kids we are about to draft

 

[CarnTheTiges]

I think our year this year was slightly worse than West Coast's but that maybe my bias.

Wasn’t a lot of theirs Covid? Whereas we had structural injuries.

 

[gold1]

Win loss ratio for next year will be irrelevant, but the emergence of a visible game structure / system and competitive periods / games during the second half of the year will be a minimum requirement. 2026 it will be a solidifying of the game plan, longer competitive periods and growth to around the 5 to 8 win mark. 2027 we might be able to start dreaming about sneaking around the door of the 8.

Nah,Yze has been watching old replays of Tommy coaching the Pies in 1977.They got the spoon with 6 wins in 76.Tommy took them to the grand final in 77 with 18 wins.Should be a soda for Yze next year.

 

[gutfull]

We won't sack, Yze, Cooper.

NFC. l would extend him for another 3 years now ! Would shut the media shitheads up ....
Also would allow him to Coach ....

 

[Carter]

Height, size and big arses

Welcome to Richmond, Adem. Nice to meet you finally.

 

[Smoking Aces]

Height, size and big arses

Welcome to Richmond, Adem. Nice to meet you finally.

Gets his new toys.