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[MD Jazz]

I may go agin the flow here but I rate Ross highly. One of the hardest p-Icks to play game. He is a tough so and so. Anyone who at the age of 16 yells at David Parkin to eff off from his front porch because he doesn’t want to go there (fitzroy) is no softee. He did end up there, at the Roy boys and all the old Roy’s supporters loved him for his no nonsense play. He has had 2 playing lists that have respected him enormously. He is a good coach. Full stop.

Great post. He was a mercurial player, could take hangers, kick both feet, loved a goal and moved beautifully. And was able to deliver a hip and shoulder as good as anyone. As you say his playing groups (in the main) have great respect for him.

 

[spook]

Look at the teams below. Name a combined team. Start at the backline - how many dockers? Maybe McPharlin gets in the back 6. Fyfe gets in the side as does Sandilands, Pavlich, Walters, Hill? Neale?

Get serious YOT they simply don't compare yet Freo arguably should have won the game.


Hawthorn

B:	24 Ben Stratton	17 Brian Lake	14 Grant Birchall
HB:	9 Shaun Burgoyne	6 Josh Gibson	10 Bradley Hill
C:	16 Isaac Smith	5 Sam Mitchell	3 Jordan Lewis
HF:	22 Luke Breust	23 Lance Franklin	33 Cyril Rioli
F:	28 Paul Puopolo	2 Jarryd Roughead	19 Jack Gunston
Foll:	39 Max Bailey	12 Brad Sewell	15 Luke Hodge (c)
Int:	26 Liam Shiels	18 Brent Guerra	20 David Hale
	32 Jonathan Simpkin (sub)
Coach:	Alastair Clarkson

Fremantle

B:	37 Michael Johnson	3 Zac Dawson	41 Paul Duffield
HB:	34 Lee Spurr	18 Luke McPharlin	6 Danyle Pearce
C:	16 David Mundy	15 Ryan Crowley	13 Tendai Mzungu
HF:	33 Cameron Sutcliffe	23 Chris Mayne	7 Nathan Fyfe
F:	1 Hayden Ballantyne	29 Matthew Pavlich (c)	10 Michael Walters
Foll:	31 Aaron Sandilands	9 Matt de Boer	32 Stephen Hill
Int:	30 Zac Clarke	8 Nick Suban	21 Michael Barlow
	27 Lachie Neale (sub)
Coach:	Ross Lyon

I'm a Lyon fan, love him in the media. He can clearly coach. His St Kilda teams weren't brimming with talent either.

You missed Mundy as a Freo player who'd make that hybrid side. Neale wouldn't, considering he was behind Nick Suban for a game at that stage. I'd go something like:

B: Gibson Lake Birchall
HB: Burgoyne McPharlin Hodge
C: Smith Mundy S.Hill
HF: Franklin Roughead Rioli
F: Gunston Pavlich Walters
R: Sandilands Fyfe Mitchell
I: Lewis Breust B.Hill Ballantyne

Roughy could relieve Lurch for 5 minutes a quarter. 10 left-footers! Plus Mitchell, who was equally good either foot and actually used his left more than his right as his career progressed.

 

[MD Jazz]

I'm a Lyon fan, love him in the media. He can clearly coach. His St Kilda teams weren't brimming with talent either.

You missed Mundy as a Freo player who'd make that hybrid side. Neale wouldn't, considering he was behind Nick Suban for a game at that stage. I'd go something like:

B: Gibson Lake Birchall
HB: Burgoyne McPharlin Hodge
C: Smith Mundy S.Hill
HF: Franklin Roughead Rioli
F: Gunston Pavlich Walters
R: Sandilands Fyfe Mitchell
I: Lewis Breust B.Hill Ballantyne

Roughy could relieve Lurch for 5 minutes a quarter. 10 left-footers! Plus Mitchell, who was equally good either foot and actually used his left more than his right as his career progressed.

When you look at it on paper there are zero weaknesses. Would be fascinating to do this over the years and compare the sides, can't imagine many would be much better than this one.

You could arguably have a Sewell on the bench in place of Ballantyne (I mean with Rioli/Walters/Breust little Ballantyne might be superfulous) but its a great side.

 

[year of the tiger]

Look at the teams below. Name a combined team. Start at the backline - how many dockers? Maybe McPharlin gets in the back 6. Fyfe gets in the side as does Sandilands, Pavlich, Walters, Hill? Neale?

Get serious YOT they simply don't compare yet Freo arguably should have won the game.


Hawthorn

B:	24 Ben Stratton	17 Brian Lake	14 Grant Birchall
HB:	9 Shaun Burgoyne	6 Josh Gibson	10 Bradley Hill
C:	16 Isaac Smith	5 Sam Mitchell	3 Jordan Lewis
HF:	22 Luke Breust	23 Lance Franklin	33 Cyril Rioli
F:	28 Paul Puopolo	2 Jarryd Roughead	19 Jack Gunston
Foll:	39 Max Bailey	12 Brad Sewell	15 Luke Hodge (c)
Int:	26 Liam Shiels	18 Brent Guerra	20 David Hale
	32 Jonathan Simpkin (sub)
Coach:	Alastair Clarkson

Fremantle

B:	37 Michael Johnson	3 Zac Dawson	41 Paul Duffield
HB:	34 Lee Spurr	18 Luke McPharlin	6 Danyle Pearce
C:	16 David Mundy	15 Ryan Crowley	13 Tendai Mzungu
HF:	33 Cameron Sutcliffe	23 Chris Mayne	7 Nathan Fyfe
F:	1 Hayden Ballantyne	29 Matthew Pavlich (c)	10 Michael Walters
Foll:	31 Aaron Sandilands	9 Matt de Boer	32 Stephen Hill
Int:	30 Zac Clarke	8 Nick Suban	21 Michael Barlow
	27 Lachie Neale (sub)
Coach:	Ross Lyon

I am with you MD re the dockers weren’t even close to the hawks re the quality of the two teams.

What I was trying to show is that Lyon still had a pretty decent squad to work with and therefore was able to get them to a gf - compare that dockers team to the current sainters squad.

 

[craig]

 

[T-Shirt Tommy]

Lyon looking at doing a Essington and bringing in anyone that previously played for the club as an assistant.

Harvey, Goddard (Hayes is already there). Riewoldt and Montagna would be eagerly waiting by the phone.

Jobs for the boys.

 

[waiting]

Lyon looking at doing a Essington and bringing in anyone that previously played for the club as an assistant.

Harvey, Goddard and Hayes is already there. Riewoldt and Montagna would be eagerly waiting by the phone.

Jobs for the boys.

The ones that ‘lobbied’ for him!

 

[Redford]

The ones that ‘lobbied’ for him!

Yeah. Next thing Jason Blake will be on the coaching staff as well !

 

[waiting]

Looks like I was a day late.

Ross ‘the Boss’ will be announced at 1.00pm.

 

[TigerForce]

Looks like I was a day late.

Ross ‘the Boss’ will be announced at 1.00pm.

Interesting to see how he and Pepper Scott manage each club in such a short time. Both desperation appointments.

 

[Tigers of Old]

Retro round

I find this appointment absolutely bizarre.

 

[tigertim]

Lyon looking at doing a Essington and bringing in anyone that previously played for the club as an assistant.

Harvey, Goddard (Hayes is already there). Riewoldt and Montagna would be eagerly waiting by the phone.

Jobs for the boys.

Just caught a bit of Grant Thomas on the radio saying Lyon should get Goddard, Gehrig, Harvey, Riewoldt, Montagna back. And just read the Saints are after Andrew mcqualter!

 

[IanG]

And just read the Saints are after Andrew mcqualter!

They can have him

 

[The Big Richo]

Not enjoying the way the St Kilda President pronounces 'Lyon'.

 

[taztiger4]

They can have him

Why ? I reckon Mini has done a pretty good job for us

 

[St Kevin]

Just caught a bit of Grant Thomas on the radio saying Lyon should get Goddard, Gehrig, Harvey, Riewoldt, Montagna back. And just read the Saints are after Andrew mcqualter!

We should be driving McQualter to Moorabbin. His area has been our consistent weakness throughout his time in charge.

 

[IanG]

Why ? I reckon Mini has done a pretty good job for us

Midfield has been a weakness ever since he took it over

 

[taztiger4]

Midfield has been a weakness ever since he took it over

joined mids coaching group in 2016 !, weve been OK since then

I dont have the coaching structure prior to 2019 but in
2019 Assistant coach, forwards: Andrew McQualter
2020 Assistant coach, midfield/offensive: Andrew McQualter
2021 Assistant coach, forwards: Andrew McQualter
2022 Assistant coach Stoppage Andrew McQualter

 

[IanG]

Delusional St Kilda and Ross Lyon deserve each other:

https://footyology.com.au/delusional-st-kilda-and-ross-lyon-deserve-each-other/

 

[TigerForce]

Delusional St Kilda and Ross Lyon deserve each other:

https://footyology.com.au/delusional-st-kilda-and-ross-lyon-deserve-each-other/

All true. No big team handed over as it was 13 years ago. Wossy has to start from scratch. Hope Ratts gets a 2nd chance somewhere.