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1049 deaths in the USA in the past 24 hours and bound to get worse.

Historically, there’s never been a worse time for the USA to have Trump in charge. WW2 the only era I reckon he could do more damage.Noted today already starting diversion tactics, Iran, cartels.

Childcare policy another positive today.
 
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Ireland in full lockdown but not fairing very well. 71 Corona-related deaths.
A mixture of both Lee!

I think we can ALL start little by little.

BUY Australian, MADE in Australia, FOR Australians should be our way forward.

My motto!

Yes it will be hard in the short term but if there is going to be business dealings and dealings kept , let’s do it where it advantages Australia and it’s people , not China and it’s people.

Those days are gone mate. Globalisation is not something you can claw back. Markets are now intertwined, for good or ill. It feels like the China is following the history of Japan's rise post-war. Their products were mistrusted and cheap. They built and changed over the years to become a rival of Germany for quality engineering and manufacturing. South Korea has done this also. Their automotive products/electronics were cheap and low quality not that long ago. Kia and Hyundai have really improved. Samsung is a beast. China will do the same. But the point is no one is going to pay 100,000 (that's a conservative estimate) for a base model Holden or Ford. The full cost of design, prototyping and mass production is just way too high. Never mind the same costs for all the down-the-line components. And now apply this to everything in your home. It just doesn't work.
 
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Boy, 13, with no apparent underlying health conditions dies after testing positive for coronavirus
"A 13-year-old boy with no apparent underlying health conditions has died after testing positive for coronavirus, his family has said.

Ismail Mohamed Abdulwahab from Brixton, south London, died in hospital in the early hours of Monday.

He had tested positive for Covid-19 on Friday, a day after he was admitted to King’s College Hospital, his family said.

It is reported he was put into a coma and ITV News understands he died of a cardiac arrest."
 
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...-vigorous-attack-on-coronavirus-idUSKBN21D0ZU

Imagine sticking some of these 5-star hotel complainants in a shared room of 10 or 20 for a few weeks. Vietnam's methods would never be allowed in Australia. Vietnam people don't forget the hardships they've endured in the last 50+ years. It's these social expectations that make it so much more difficult for western societies to contain.
Yeh, poor Bill had to put his plus twos back in the cupboard for a couple of months.
 
The above article could have been written by an Aussie journalist & it would ring very true to our situation. Even more so when you consider what has happened with regard to our goods being "raided" packed up & sent to China.
The recent signing of a "Free Trade Agreement" with China seems to me to be of more benefit to them than us. This ageement was a major reason that the Aussie car manufacturing industry was shutdown.
We also allow China to buy our industries, farms, properties etc with immunity. There is no way that any "Western" Govt. industry, company or individual would be allowed to buy any Chinese property of any kind. They don't allow anyone to own anything of theirs. They allow property to be leased but NEVER owned. They can also terminate these leases any time they want.
For too long our Govts (ofboth persuasions) have allowed our assets to gobbled up by foreign companies at the expense of local interests.

It's time we as a society let our pollies know that we've had enough & they should start to put Australias & Australians interests before their own selfish wants.
Aussie manufacturing was shut down because it is not competitive.

And they don't buy everything with immunity.

Sounds like a today tonight rant.
 
IMO Scomo has really come to the party with his recent announcements. The 3rd stimulus, the childcare announcement. He has been impressive in his press conferences. Ironic that there is complete silence on here about his recent performances.

Keep up the good work Scomo.
 
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Whilst we’d all love to see an Australian manufacturing renaissance and a rediction of reliance on Chinese manufacturing it ain’t gunna happen. There’ll be an initial wave of people trying to “buy Australian” but it’ll quickly wear off. Money talks.
 
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If he knows our figures are low, why does he want us to live like this for 6 months or even longer??

This bloke's inhaling the Hitlervirus.
 
IMO Scomo has really come to the party with his recent announcements. The 3rd stimulus, the childcare announcement. He has been impressive in his press conferences. Ironic that there is complete silence on here about his recent performances.

Keep up the good work Scomo.
Scott is still going alright. But McGowan is smashing all and sundry to the cover boundary ball after ball.
 
Depends on how you look at it. It's given us more toys and shiney things to watch and play with, but is that raising the standard of living?

Interesting question.

A few decades ago the answer was a lot clearer.

Upgrades to kitchen appliances for example created hours of extra usable time per day for a large percentage of the population.

Indirectly, upgrades increased population productivity.

As solutions were met to fulfil our basic needs, what’s next?

In recent decades, our focus of attention for upgrades = computer technology. Entertainment. Hours of consumption per day.

Capitalism works when competitive pressure = upgrades = further productivity = further upgrades

But we’ve solved all the basics. Which problems are the brightest minds in the world trying to solve today?

Upgrades in knowledge of how to get people to further digitalise their lives and voluntarily imprison themselves in the entertainment upgrades available?

Hand in hand, knowledge upgrades have made it easier than ever for smart companies to make us want shiny new toys.

What else can they sell the world?

A leisure trip to the moon? (They’re working on it)
 
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FWIW, I don’t believe early Covid-19 information was intentionally suppressed by China’s top leaders.

I saw it as a byproduct of a culture that strongly discourages local state officials (or anyone mid-hierarchy, really) from taking a disruptive initiative.

Once the clear problem was escalated from local officials to the top leaders in mid-Jan, I’m not aware of any information that suggests China acted negligently from that point.

Happy to listen to alternate points of view.

Ireland in full lockdown but not fairing very well. 71 Corona-related deaths.


Those days are gone mate. Globalisation is not something you can claw back. Markets are now intertwined, for good or ill. It feels like the China is following the history of Japan's rise post-war. Their products were mistrusted and cheap. They built and changed over the years to become a rival of Germany for quality engineering and manufacturing. South Korea has done this also. Their automotive products/electronics were cheap and low quality not that long ago. Kia and Hyundai have really improved. Samsung is a beast. China will do the same. But the point is no one is going to pay 100,000 (that's a conservative estimate) for a base model Holden or Ford. The full cost of design, prototyping and mass production is just way too high. Never mind the same costs for all the down-the-line components. And now apply this to everything in your home. It just doesn't work.

Good comparison with Japan and China.

Agree wholeheartedly.

Even if we innovate a means to reduce the base cost of a Ford to $20,000, how long does that advantage last before the knowledge is eventually figured out and imitated elsewhere?

That process is faster than ever.

Cultural advantages are proving to be the most sustainable in this environment... and perhaps that bodes well for the RFC :)
 
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