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Public health performance was good until it came time to roll out the vaccine.

On The Weekly tonight they were calling it the Vaccine Stroll Out.

Absolute joke. This government kept harping on about the economic damage of border closures and lock downs - what do they think the impact of a slow vaccine roll out will be? At least border closures and lock downs controlled the virus, what good does a slow vaccine roll out do?

Nongs.

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Public health performance was good until it came time to roll out the vaccine.

On The Weekly tonight they were calling it the Vaccine Stroll Out.

Absolute joke. This government kept harping on about the economic damage of border closures and lock downs - what do they think the impact of a slow vaccine roll out will be? At least border closures and lock downs controlled the virus, what good does a slow vaccine roll out do?

Nongs.

DS

Exactly. And it's interesting to note the right wing Murdoch media outlets that have been screaming blue murder in Victoria about lockdowns, border closures, masks, liberties etc and the need to open up the economy, the need to open up travel, relieve the mental health impacts etc etc. are, not surprisingly, deathly quiet about the federal government's disastrous vaccine roll out - the very thing ...in fact the only thing.....that was supposed to achieve much of this longer term.

Instead, it now seems its ok to wait. Australia has things "under control" - a further irony given that it was the states and their conservative approach that lead to this position and, as I say, for which they carped on and railed against for 12 months.
 
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India - Monday approx 160k new cases.
Today (Thursday) - 184k.

Almost taken over USA as hardest hit.

So hard to control if it gets out in India (which it clearly has).

If the rest of the world wants to open up again and be relatively free of COVID then we will all need to help India control the virus there.

DS
 
So hard to control if it gets out in India (which it clearly has).

If the rest of the world wants to open up again and be relatively free of COVID then we will all need to help India control the virus there.

DS

We need to help the whole world get vaccinated as fast as possible, lest the virus continue to mutate and render the current crop of vaccines less effective against new variants. A massive worldwide task.

Australia could do it's bit to help by investing in facilities to develop these new mRNA vaccines like Pfizer and Moderna. But as we've seen, The federal government would rather avoid spending money on anything other than helping out their crony mates, and passing any blame of their inactivity onto the states or the Labor party.
 
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I heard Professors Murphy and Griffin on Friday morning talk about that very point. Makes sense.
And he reminded us every medication has risks. That piece of paper that falls out of every pill packet I just chuck away has a scary list of side effects.
True. 2 relos I know cant take penicillin for instance.

Im lucky enough to have a been given access to a trial drug via a medical research I did for 2 yrsfor a medical condition I have. Outside the trial now, they still provide it to me under compassionate grounds for free.

But the main side affect was throat shrinkage. Got it. They made me aware from the outset. I was okay with it & went on the trial with successful outcome. I can function without being hindered. Main problem is I just can't scull a beer like I use too sadly (throat shrinkage), that party trick is gone :( haha
 
Public health performance was good until it came time to roll out the vaccine.

On The Weekly tonight they were calling it the Vaccine Stroll Out.

Absolute joke. This government kept harping on about the economic damage of border closures and lock downs - what do they think the impact of a slow vaccine roll out will be? At least border closures and lock downs controlled the virus, what good does a slow vaccine roll out do?

Nongs.

DS
The states wanted to handle the vaccine rollout and were told that the feds would do it.
I suspect the Feds wish they had said yes.
Part of it always had to be federal which is the central supply and then distribution to the states but that was really the only thing
 
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Listening to #SlipperyScotty's presser today was amusing. Talking about the rollout, mass rollout, and the amount of times he mentioned State Rollout, State's being ready, State's need to decide how many they can vaccinate etc. The narrative is very clear now, it's the States responsibility to vaccinate everyone now.

Peta will be very happy with that news.
 
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Listening to #SlipperyScotty's presser today was amusing. Talking about the rollout, mass rollout, and the amount of times he mentioned State Rollout, State's being ready, State's need to decide how many they can vaccinate etc. The narrative is very clear now, it's the States responsibility to vaccinate everyone now.

Peta will be very happy with that news.


Our country's "Leader" !!!!! Words fail me.
 
Now they are saying we will need 3 jabs, and not two!
That's 3 Pfizers which probably means at least 4 AZ's and another 2 years on the programme. I wonder if anyone has actually picked up the phone and asked Pfizer if their Perth facility can be repurposed?
 
True. 2 relos I know cant take penicillin for instance.

Im lucky enough to have a been given access to a trial drug via a medical research I did for 2 yrsfor a medical condition I have. Outside the trial now, they still provide it to me under compassionate grounds for free.

But the main side affect was throat shrinkage. Got it. They made me aware from the outset. I was okay with it & went on the trial with successful outcome. I can function without being hindered. Main problem is I just can't scull a beer like I use too sadly (throat shrinkage), that party trick is gone :( haha
throat shrinkage ... how strange . But glad the drug works for you and your lifestyle hasn't been too impacted (sculling was one of those talents you either had or didn't)
 
The states wanted to handle the vaccine rollout and were told that the feds would do it.
I suspect the Feds wish they had said yes.
Part of it always had to be federal which is the central supply and then distribution to the states but that was really the only thing
Not sure why anyone on here expected the Feds should do it. But they were dumb in trying to do it. Right thing to use state health systems.
 
Not sure why anyone on here expected the Feds should do it. But they were dumb in trying to do it. Right thing to use state health systems.
the logic is that the feds are responsible for primary care (GPs and Pharmacy) and aged care. The problem is that logistics within states are far more the state’s domain. The Feds should have just outsourced it all to the states and supplied them but I suspect that they didn’t want labor state governments getting any more kudos than they were already getting.
 
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throat shrinkage ... how strange . ..
yeah, was surprised myself but they informed me from the start & was quite happy to proceed, and it works perfectly.
I weighed up the benefits vs possible side affects. The benefits outstriped any side effects I had to live with.
Must note, not everyone get the side affects, but got the throat one. Its slight but noticeable.
 
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the logic is that the feds are responsible for primary care (GPs and Pharmacy) and aged care. The problem is that logistics within states are far more the state’s domain. The Feds should have just outsourced it all to the states and supplied them but I suspect that they didn’t want labor state governments getting any more kudos than they were already getting.

No suspect about it, SloMo wanted the kudos of delivering a superb vax rollout and now he's stuffed it up.
 
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No suspect about it, SloMo wanted the kudos of delivering a superb vax rollout and now he's stuffed it up.
He’s turning out to be one of the least substantial politicians I can remember. A pretty amazing feat given the field size.
 
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