It was 3 weeks, whilst we ensured that we could take those coming in with a higher risk of transmission due to higher levels of infection to a more appropriate facility,
It wasn't like we said, stuff you all, we don't care.
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It was 3 weeks, whilst we ensured that we could take those coming in with a higher risk of transmission due to higher levels of infection to a more appropriate facility,
It wasn't like we said, stuff you all, we don't care.
That's exactly what was said. And still being said by kicking off those with the virus or had close contact.
We could be talking about different people, but here’s an update on the guy I saw.
Went to India last May to care for his dying father. He’s been trying since June last year to return with his mum. Hasn’t seen his wife and kids for a year.
Quarantined as per Aust Gov instructions in a quarantine hotel in Delhi before the repatriation flight, and subsequently tested positive for COVID - his mother is negative even though sharing same room.
Edit: They have both been vaccinated.
Many Australians in the quarantine hotel went in negative, then tested positive and got kicked off flight and out of hotel.
Father's been dead for close on 12 months.
He stayed on to look after his mum who wanted to stay in India.
He says they've been trying to return.
Pardon me for being a tad cynical but I'd hazard a guess the wish to return only became critical when it hit the fan in regards infection rates there.
Meanwhile 140k others have managed to return from all over the world. The vast majority without having to access special repat flights.
Slight correction Posh, half were positive or close contacts of those positive.
It’s a classic ethical dilemma know as the trolley problem.
1. would you kill 1 person to save 10?
2. Would you not kill 1 person but kill 10 others by not doing that?
3. Would you not kill 1 Australian citizen but kill 10 Australian citizens?
4. Would you not kill 1 Indian citizen but kill 10 Australian citizens.
Many societies pick 4 regularly in many many ways. We struggle with 3.
If the federal government built national quarantine capacity we wouldn’t have to pick 3 and may be able to help out on 4.
So those 40 should have been allowed to fly? What about those on the same flight that were not infected, what do you think their rights should include? Do they deserve some protection from the government? Or should they be forced to take their chances and fly with 40 plus infected?
no easy decisions in all this
A laboratory had its accreditation suspended when it pre-screened Aussies wanting to return from India on a Qantas flight, with three stopped from boarding now testing negative.
Qantas has confirmed a laboratory that pre-screened passengers for a repatriation flight from India had its accreditation suspended last month.
Not good but indicates some of the issues with organising repat flights from a place like India. Dodgy labs, dodgy medical staff who'll sell a negative test result.
Qantas has confirmed a laboratory that pre-screened passengers for a repatriation flight from India had its accreditation suspended last month.
Not good but indicates some of the issues with organising repat flights from a place like India. Dodgy labs, dodgy medical staff who'll sell a negative test result.
You would have thought the government would have confirmed that the lab they used was legit and of good standing. They must have been the cheapest.
So now we have 3 Australians kicked off a plane returning to Australia because the government's chosen COVID tester was dodgy.
Just one classic *smile* after another with #SloMo. Let me guess, when asked he replied with "I don't hold the swab, mate"
Obviously yes it was a complete and utter "smile" to use that lab on top of the complete and utter "smile" to let Qantas pick that lab.
However there's also an extremely good chance that the 3 yesterday and now 12 today claiming they have now tested negative did nothing more than buy a negative test certificate.
Someone on the ABC today was suggesting that they use the Indian Government's testing facility at the airport - results back via 2 methods within 6 hours and no need to be locked up in a plague hotel for days. Maybe that's a better option.
However an abundance of caution remains the best approach.
Not sure that stands up at all. They found out on Friday. News came out Sunday. Plenty of time for a test. I'd also assume there was some verification of the second tests which is what triggered the background check on the discredited lab. And finally, they still need to have another test of the Governments chosen lab before they can board.
So, in summary, most likely just made up *smile* to paint as negative a light as possible on those Australians trying to get back home.
So in summary completely ignoring the fact that the purchase of negative test certificates is rampant, in India at the moment, in order to be able to shout WACISM!
Because for you everything is about WACISM
It's rampant everywhere, not just India. But there are mechanisms in place to verify certificates. Indian airlines have implemented these measures already.
Racism? I haven't mentioned race or racism in any of my posts. More made up *smile*?
There's a time coming soon where it will be the vaccinated vs the non vaccinated..
You wait until they're refused things like insurance, travel & hospital cover..
Some of us would very much like to be vaccinated, but our short sighted federal government has made that difficult.
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