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I guess it depends on how you want to be perceived.

Warner, in particular, was getting himself a pretty poor reputation in terms of on field behaviour, so overstepping the boundary by such a significant margin, gave the ACA a chance to show the world they wouldn’t tolerate it anymore.

Perhaps they were victims of circumstance to a degree, but they’d brought it on themselves.

Australian cricket’s reputation is bigger than any individuals, and I’m glad we were seen to come down hard on those that cheat.
 
23.21.159 said:
Sounds like you're saying it was OK to ban Bancroft because he's not as good.
I wonder if we'd all be as critical now of the ban if we were winning.

I'm glad they were banned.
No, I'm not saying that. I'm omitting Bancroft because he's meh.
 
The Big Richo said:
I don't have a problem with a ban but it was ridiculously excessive.

It was the equivalent of Richmond giving a player a 25 week suspension after the tribunal gave them one week.
Exactly. It was a one match offence. Everyone's been doing it for 40 years.
 
spook said:
Exactly. It was a one match offence. Everyone's been doing it for 40 years.

Can you point me in the direction of another cricketer that has been caught using sandpaper and then trying to conceal it?

I seem to have missed that one.
 
Midsy said:
Can you point me in the direction of another cricketer that has been caught using sandpaper and then trying to conceal it?

I seem to have missed that one.
You have certainly missed all the bottle tops and lozenges. Been going on since the 70s. Vaughan and his men got MBEs.
 
spook said:
You have certainly missed all the bottle tops and lozenges. Been going on since the 70s. Vaughan and his men got MBEs.

Can't remember anyone being done for a bottle top.

For mine, in order of increasing culpability:

throwing the ball in on the bounce
lozenge -> using saliva (borderline)
standing on the ball
sun cream
lozenge - > rubbing on ball
rubbing ball on zipper
dirt in pocket
biting the ball (Afridi)
picking the seam


sandpaper


They knew very well how far over the line sandpaper was, hence the initial "tape + dirt" confession.
 
Yeah, glad they gave the suspension they did as well. Whilst other countries have got off light, this was far away on another level.

Warner is also a germ and deserves everything he gets.
 
spook said:
Did you see it? Bowler dropped a return catch off Maddinson and it ricocheted onto the stumps. Don't have to be dead to be stiff.

The ludicrous overreaction by the idiots at CA to ban Smith and Warner for a year is starting to bite, and will only hurt more as the summer goes on. The batting is not good enough, and it also means they have to keep Paine in the side when Carey is ready. Paine is a good man, a good keeper and a steady hand, but a tactically poor captain, and as good as he looks with the willow, and as much as Leysy protests, he just doesn't make enough runs and never has.

Tough on The Kid mate.

Only two tests ago batted for near 4 hrs to save a Test on foreign soil. If that is a steady hand from your captain happy to agree on that! ;D

Averages 38 in Test cricket. Most of our specialist batsman aren't that high. And is still the best keeper in the country.

Also disagree on his captaincy ability, but that one is down to opinion.

We'd be lost without him ATM. Who would be skipper? Mitch Marsh is VC.
 
I have no idea if Langer is a good coach/ manager or not, however heard his interview with Wheatley on Saturday and all I heard was excuses
 
spook said:
Exactly. It was a one match offence. Everyone's been doing it for 40 years.

Agree. I read that Kohli believed the penalty was excessive.

My sense is that Aus cricket was so much on the nose that they needed a circuit breaker. These three blokes paid a price out of proportion with the misdemeanor. Plus the public was baying for blood.
 
Leysy Days said:
Tough on The Kid mate.

Only two tests ago batted for near 4 hrs to save a Test on foreign soil. If that is a steady hand from your captain happy to agree on that! ;D

Averages 38 in Test cricket. Most of our specialist batsman aren't that high. And is still the best keeper in the country.

Also disagree on his captaincy ability, but that one is down to opinion.

We'd be lost without him ATM. Who would be skipper? Mitch Marsh is VC.
I agree we'd be lost without him and that's why he's in the team. I said as much. His Test average is boosted by a quarter of his innings being not out. Great match-saving knock in the UAE, one of three scores over 50 (none over 62) in 12 Tests since he's been back in the side. You need more from a number 7.
 
Smith and Warner coming back won't change the leadership void though, thus the requirement for Tim.

Neither will be captain of their country again.
 
On Paine's average and scores. Not outs boost your average for a reason.

Who's to know what his final score when unbeaten on 28, 38 or 49 would have been.