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Damien Hardwick [Merged]
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ninjahaha said:
What's your source for Lennon?
McBean is much better than you think. Been down to the VFl?
And finally, we played Batchelor on Waite in the EF. Are you saying Elton or Astbury couldn't have helped our back six in a structural sense at any stage in the year?
Turn it up Ninja.
Carter said:
Source on lennon is a RFC VFL trainer who I bump into socially every six months or so. Also I say a quick hello to when Im at a VFL game. So yes Ive been down to the VFL. I think McJesus looks good and has potential to be a very good/somewhat unique Tall Fwd. But he isn't the second best FWD at our club yet like you claim.
and finally you are putting words into my mouth RE elton and the Berry. Then insult my intelligence for having a different opinion to yours. But thats fairly standard, so Im surprised I'm surprised.
ninjahaha said:
Ninja just on that, and im actually on your side as im fine with young talent being kept down til they are ready to improve our side...
Do you know with Lennon if it was his attitude and ego holding out for more money or was it a case of juggling the books with trade season etc that held it up?
If i was a betting man which im generally not i would guess he wanted more and that again gets back to attitude. Look at BEllis and Vlas, even Cotch, no dramas at all just give them the pen!!
Tigertough1974 said:
Could be a youth thing. Dusty tried to hold out for more money a few years back. This time around he just sorted it out without fuss despite probably being worth more.
I'm starting to think DR has Moebius syndrome. Moebius syndrome sufferers physically can't blink.
Tigertough1974 said:
My comments on Lennon (and the other developing talent) was more through the season. What I gleamed from a social conversation with a trainer was that his focus was not on footy. Almost like footy was just what he did cause he always had. This reflected in his work rate and his care factor.
Haven't seen the person other than a quick hello at VFL games to see if that changed.
The contract saga I have no idea about.
Certainly glad we kept him. Think he will be a good player.
Baloo i agree with the youth comment although i think hes idiot manager lead him astray with even GWS stating he wanted to stay at RFC and his greatest influences were Cotch and Dimma etc..
Ninja - Agree i think he has the tools to be a very good player, heard him say in one of the RFC interviews Lids took him aside and spoke with him and also helped him, to state that in a interview shows he definitely took something from it.. Shame hes now sick as that could really effect his 2016 depending on how long it lasts and these things are fickle as ive also suffered GF same as everyone else late teens, i was lucky and only slowed me down for 2 or so months!
Ninja - Agree i think he has the tools to be a very good player, heard him say in one of the RFC interviews Lids took him aside and spoke with him and also helped him, to state that in a interview shows he definitely took something from it.. Shame hes now sick as that could really effect his 2016 depending on how long it lasts and these things are fickle as ive also suffered GF same as everyone else late teens, i was lucky and only slowed me down for 2 or so months!
How I wish Santa would bring us a new coach.
Unfortunately he's only make believe.
Like a lot of posters who think we can go places with the current coach.
Merry Xmas everybody.
Here's to reality in the new year.
Unfortunately he's only make believe.
Like a lot of posters who think we can go places with the current coach.
Merry Xmas everybody.
Here's to reality in the new year.
Damien you have heard & seen the designated kicker in grid iron. Why not use it in the AFL & change the game with a long distant kicker after a point is scored. At the moment you have Houli & Co short passing to some one in a pocket which contains the ball in defence. With a designated kicker like Griff landing the ball across the centre line at different points it will open up another aspect to our game. Short kicks out of the square is negative & non productive. He Who Dares Wins. He Who Defends With Defence Does Not Win. Implement this & the punch line will be The Spread.
No upgrade on Maric and questionable contested backup to Cotchin and Miles.
I believe we are a top four chance but we ain't gonna get there playing a clearance / contested style. We will build from the back again. Like we did from the first Collingwood game onwards.
We need to set up to concede first possession but also degrade it. We are elite at doing this. Hunt, Houli, Martin, Vlastuin and McIntosh all take turns zoning off the defensive edge of the square at centre clearances. Rance and Chaplin are superb at marshalling these interceptors.
Once we have won the ball at half back we are usually effective in transition. The key in 2016 will be gears. We can't just pass along the boundary, nor can we just go hell for leather. There needs to be sophistication here. A combination of angles and modes. Long, accurate kicks across the ground. More handball triangles to release and create space.
Lastly, we need smart forwards because we aren't going to get the same level of entries that we did in the halcyon possession days of 2013.
We need elite delivery into F50 and forwards who can create from half chances. Lennon, Deledio, Riewoldt, McBean, Rioli, Vickery, Lloyd. All these guys will need to convert their chances.
Frankly our midfield is a concern. We haven't recruited enough depth or grunt and so will manufacture loose ball gets across the half back line.
This is where guys like Yarran and Costagna come in. Along with the other interceptors, they will in many ways be our ball winners.
We have a very strong contingent of back flankers now. Dimma and the backline coach need to work closely together to ensure that we repel as many opposition entries as possible.
Expect another season of losing F50 entries but high scoring efficiency. We must play genuine forwards and jettison all notions of the "defensive forward". Unless, of course, it's Rioli ;D
The only other mode we need to train is one on one. Even if that stacks the forward line. Because that's the only way a slingshot team can beat another slingshot team who matches up well. I'm looking at you North Melbourne.
I believe we are a top four chance but we ain't gonna get there playing a clearance / contested style. We will build from the back again. Like we did from the first Collingwood game onwards.
We need to set up to concede first possession but also degrade it. We are elite at doing this. Hunt, Houli, Martin, Vlastuin and McIntosh all take turns zoning off the defensive edge of the square at centre clearances. Rance and Chaplin are superb at marshalling these interceptors.
Once we have won the ball at half back we are usually effective in transition. The key in 2016 will be gears. We can't just pass along the boundary, nor can we just go hell for leather. There needs to be sophistication here. A combination of angles and modes. Long, accurate kicks across the ground. More handball triangles to release and create space.
Lastly, we need smart forwards because we aren't going to get the same level of entries that we did in the halcyon possession days of 2013.
We need elite delivery into F50 and forwards who can create from half chances. Lennon, Deledio, Riewoldt, McBean, Rioli, Vickery, Lloyd. All these guys will need to convert their chances.
Frankly our midfield is a concern. We haven't recruited enough depth or grunt and so will manufacture loose ball gets across the half back line.
This is where guys like Yarran and Costagna come in. Along with the other interceptors, they will in many ways be our ball winners.
We have a very strong contingent of back flankers now. Dimma and the backline coach need to work closely together to ensure that we repel as many opposition entries as possible.
Expect another season of losing F50 entries but high scoring efficiency. We must play genuine forwards and jettison all notions of the "defensive forward". Unless, of course, it's Rioli ;D
The only other mode we need to train is one on one. Even if that stacks the forward line. Because that's the only way a slingshot team can beat another slingshot team who matches up well. I'm looking at you North Melbourne.
Carter said:
Alwas enjoy reading your Statements rather than opinion Carts..
As aways with your statement of facts i assume this will be a blue print to condemn Dimma should he not follow?.
Before you ask me for my opinions to throw them about, it is actually not my opinion that is valuable as i am sure 17 other league coaches have a variation of gameplan that wouldnt follow yours, lets get them closr to the stake when the tme comes also....
Sorry being a cynic but seen it last couple of preseasons, if Dimma doesnt follow and execute the above stratergies he is a goose :rofl
Tigertough1974 said:
This is how we will roll out TT.
Any imbecile can see that we are light on for ruck advantage and contested possession in the middle.
Just as any imbecile can see that in the off season we looked at who was available to bring in and saw there were no premium rucks or a grade extractors. Goldy was locked away and Treloar said no.
So what did we do? Recruit for plan B. Running off half back.
Pretty simple stuff even for you :hihi
Sorry Carts, but we recruited one running half back and two centre square grunters, so clearly looking for more contested ball in the centre square as well. Bit of both I'd suggest.
Agree that if plan A recruiting wise doesn't come off you do modify as needs must.
Agree that if plan A recruiting wise doesn't come off you do modify as needs must.
Carter said:
Cmon carts, no insults here buddy :spin
im·be·cile - as per google
1.
a stupid person.
2.
stupid; idiotic.
I actually think it takes a stupid person or an imbecile as you will to list a document of what the coach should or shouldn't do and then take the last year or two and the one ahead to slander them for not following...
Even an imbecile like myself understands this is a RFC forum and these things are discussion points, however, i think only an imbecile would hold the coach to his/her plan and then slander for proceeding months/years that their plan wasn't followed... touche...
I am sure like all of us you really really want RFC to be successful, but lets not believe that there is only one game plan that would work or that their ideas are the very best and if not followed every on else is an imbecile as you like.... opinions are not fact buddy
Tigertough1974 said:
1. I am as imbecilic as they come
2. Football is not as complicated as we all make out. There are fairly obvious gaps in our arsenal that will shape our game plan. Call it slingshot, call it 'the cheat', call it setting up from the back. People are saying we recruited some grunt. Well no, we actually recruited depth grunt to replace Matt Thomas. A grade grunt still eludes. This is why we will use flankers to collect the loose, degraded ball. Yarran and a host of flankers from the ND and PD are testament to that.
The funny thing about all this is Dimma would never, not in his wildest dreams, have thought his contested stocks would be so thin going into year 7.
I wonder what his relationship is like with FJ and Blair. Cos he's coaching a young battalion of Wallacian flankers.
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