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1. No athletic ruck man.
2. No tall defender to help rance
3. No big body mids
4. Small forwards hmmmm jury out
It's quite obvious to some,,,,,.
 
Carter said:
I wonder what his relationship is like with FJ and Blair. Cos he's coaching a young battalion of Wallacian flankers.

This is my concern. As we seemed to be "outmanned" and "outmuscled" against north. At times it felt like boys playing men.

Setting up attacking plays that start from deep in defence and transition up the field is one strategy, and is executed to great effect in soccer through swift one touch passes that create space (hand pass triangles that make space and release players as you have stated). However in soccer teams place pressure on this tactic by having midfielders push deep and create a high defensive line. (And afl teams can go one on one as you have stated.)

This is where the coach's and coaching panel's smarts and creativity will be needed in 2016. In the team's ability to quickly work through other teams not giving them the space to play the way they want to play. To have players that are well drilled, smart and skilled enough to drill the diagonal passes when they are there for the taking that will open up the play. To have players that know what to do when it's one on one, that won't merely bomb it down the line to a losing contest.

This is what they get paid big bickies for and I look forward to seeing what they roll out.
 
tiger76 said:
This is my concern. As we seemed to be "outmanned" and "outmuscled" against north. At times it felt like boys playing men.

Setting up attacking plays that start from deep in defence and transition up the field is one strategy, and is executed to great effect in soccer through swift one touch passes that create space (hand pass triangles that make space and release players as you have stated). However in soccer teams place pressure on this tactic by having midfielders push deep and create a high defensive line. (And afl teams can go one on one as you have stated.)

This is where the coach's and coaching panel's smarts and creativity will be needed in 2016. In the team's ability to quickly work through other teams not giving them the space to play the way they want to play. To have players that are well drilled, smart and skilled enough to drill the diagonal passes when they are there for the taking that will open up the play. To have players that know what to do when it's one on one, that won't merely bomb it down the line to a losing contest.

This is what they get paid big bickies for and I look forward to seeing what they roll out.

Yep T76, agree.

I think much of this will come down to Dimma's preparedness to play creative players.
 
Carter said:
This is how we will roll out TT.

Any imbecile can see that we are light on for ruck advantage and contested possession in the middle.

Just as any imbecile can see that in the off season we looked at who was available to bring in and saw there were no premium rucks or a grade extractors. Goldy was locked away and Treloar said no.

So what did we do? Recruit for plan B. Running off half back.

Pretty simple stuff even for you :hihi
yet in the last 3 yrs we have been one of the better teams in this area.....
 
Carter said:
1. I am as imbecilic as they come

2. Football is not as complicated as we all make out. There are fairly obvious gaps in our arsenal that will shape our game plan. Call it slingshot, call it 'the cheat', call it setting up from the back. People are saying we recruited some grunt. Well no, we actually recruited depth grunt to replace Matt Thomas. A grade grunt still eludes. This is why we will use flankers to collect the loose, degraded ball. Yarran and a host of flankers from the ND and PD are testament to that.

The funny thing about all this is Dimma would never, not in his wildest dreams, have thought his contested stocks would be so thin going into year 7.

I wonder what his relationship is like with FJ and Blair. Cos he's coaching a young battalion of Wallacian flankers.
I'd argue that Moore/Townsend are delayed replacements for Jacko/Tuck. having realised we need players of this type since they retired & Arnott wasn't the fix they had hoped
 
scoring from the back half/D50 plays is all well & good but when teams shut that down we get beaten far too easy, we need to score a lot more from F50 entry's & create turnovers after kick outs & score from that as well. teams get the ball out of our D50 far too easy most of the time
 
Jonesracing82 said:
yet in the last 3 yrs we have been one of the better teams in this area.....

Pity I'm not talking about the last three years eh?

2013 we dominated in the middle and dominated inside 50s. 2014 the system got the wobbles as teams began to work us out.

In 2015 we began conceding centre bounces around a third of the way in.

Which brings us to 2016 and a clear problem in this area.
 
Jonesracing82 said:
scoring from the back half/D50 plays is all well & good but when teams shut that down we get beaten far too easy, we need to score a lot more from F50 entry's & create turnovers after kick outs & score from that as well. teams get the ball out of our D50 far too easy most of the time

Yep we certainly need to deploy a scenario where we man up the opp +1.

This is what Dimma was trying to neutralise in 2013 with the possession and territory style. Remember those games where we camped in our own forward line?
 
Carter said:
Yep we certainly need to deploy a scenario where we man up the opp +1.

This is what Dimma was trying to neutralise in 2013 with the possession and territory style. Remember those games where we camped in our own forward line?
sure do, we need to go back a bit to that

Carter said:
Pity I'm not talking about the last three years eh?

2013 we dominated in the middle and dominated inside 50s. 2014 the system got the wobbles as teams began to work us out.

In 2015 we began conceding centre bounces around a third of the way in.

Which brings us to 2016 and a clear problem in this area.
i can see what your getting at, we need to buck the trend this year
 
I do envisage that this season we will see Dimma as we have never seen him before. Since last season he has undergone cloning . He had a choice of Plough, Frawley or Dolly the Sheep. My bet is that he opted for Dolly as she was successful.
 
It's the off season and in this time we usually get a lot of analysis and imo sometimes over analysis

Improvement in teams mostly comes from improvement in personnel and by that I mean both new personnel and improvement in existing players. In my view success or otherwise for RFC in 2016 is going to be the result of how much we can get in organic improvement and what we get from our recruits in Moore, Yarran and Townsend. If we get really good seasons from 2-3 of our new recruits or from a list of players like CEllis, Conca, Griffiths, McBean, Astbury, Drummond and Castagna we will have a very good 2016.

We don't need much more to be top 4 but equally it won't take much for us to be out of the 8. I am looking for organic improvement to be the benchmark of our success this year and we have the right age and experience list profile for it.

The only thing I really want from Dimma is to let the team play when it's necessary. Dare to win rather than try not to lose is what I want to see more of.
 
Sintiger said:
Improvement in teams mostly comes from improvement in personnel and by that I mean both new personnel and improvement in existing players. In my view success or otherwise for RFC in 2016 is going to be the result of how much we can get in organic improvement and what we get from our recruits in Moore, Yarran and Townsend. If we get really good seasons from 2-3 of our new recruits or from a list of players like CEllis, Conca, Griffiths, McBean, Astbury, Drummond and Castagna we will have a very good 2016.

Perhaps we are better placed this season coming for organic improvement and a little personnel improvement. Season just completed I expected us to slip as I thought we made no real personnel improvement whatsoever. Hunt played but did he improve us over 2014 - don't think so. Lambert was probably the best improvement to the team personnel wise. KMc stepping up was good and he played every game.
Sintiger said:
We don't need much more to be top 4 but equally it won't take much for us to be out of the 8. I am looking for organic improvement to be the benchmark of our success this year and we have the right age and experience list profile for it.

The only thing I really want from Dimma is to let the team play when it's necessary. Dare to win rather than try not to lose is what I want to see more of.

Agree again. We are better poised to go Top 4 IF we get the organic improvement we are due from the likes of Conca, Edwards, C.Ellis, Griffiths, Hunt, Lambert, Lennon, Lloyd, Menadue, Short, Vlastuin. That's 11 players all capable of upping there output and contribution significantly in 2016 over 2015. Your last comment is the key.
 
larabee said:
Fixed it for ya
Actually I have been quite critical of Dimma's lack of response or imagination in making any effective moves that game (and others), but my point is simply that Cotch has to accept his share of the blame too. But I haven't forgotten the great games he played, and that I saw last season, to get us to the finals anyway - such as the Swans game. As many have pointed out here, Jacobs did hatchet jobs on many other top mids in '15 too. We need to remember, the opposition can have some seriously good players; you lower your colours sometimes despite how hard you try.
Real problem is to have other midfield options who can step up when Cotch is down as opp focuses so hard on him as our key, besides Dusty. I'm so hoping Townsend or Moore will assist in this aspect.
Geelong had same problem with lack of support for Selwood last year ... have just recruited a guy that creates a bit more confidence to deal with this however.
Surely Dimma will be more responsive/proactive though ... surely!?
But there's no certainty that moving Cothin forward or wherever would have been match-changing. But not leaving Batchelor on Waite ...?
 
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