Damien Hardwick [Merged]

[leon]

Leon, if we lose another EF I expect Dimma to be gone before he's had a chance to address the players.

You're probably right but club is already in a dilemma with what to do with his contract for 2016 as unaltered situation will attract much media attention and distraction. However, come to think of it, Clarkson has put up with this, especially in JK's days as President, so why can't Dimma?

Still doubt there are that many great coaching prospects just lurking out there however.
But quietly confident we will achieve this and more in 2016.

 

[DLR]

You're probably right but club is already in a dilemma with what to do with his contract for 2016 as unaltered situation will attract much media attention and distraction. However, come to think of it, Clarkson has put up with this, especially in JK's days as President, so why can't Dimma?

Still doubt there are that many great coaching prospects just lurking out there however.
But quietly confident we will achieve this and more in 2016.

Benny Gale is not the sort of man to sit idly by - there will surely have been a trusted person(s) combing through coaching prospects, making a short list and checking it twice. I agree with you leon that it is not easy for the layperson to identify a suitable successor in the here and now, and also agree that people daring to call for Dimma's head should make the case for the alternative in the same breathe or STFU. It's lazy stuff for mine.

 

[Carter]

people daring to call for Dimma's head should make the case for the alternative in the same breathe or STFU. It's lazy stuff for mine.

Bizarre comment.

As rank and file fans we see how our team rolls out and how it performs. Black and white.

There is ample evidence on the public record to condemn coaches.

And now you want folks to know the strengths and weaknesses of replacement candidates?

Only the club would truly know that.

Dimma is gone if we fail again. Goodbye.

I have an idea on who I'd like to see in the role, but the reality is none of us have the good oil on that.

 

[tigertim]

Bizarre comment.

As rank and file fans we see how our team rolls out and how it performs. Black and white.

There is ample evidence on the public record to condemn coaches.

And now you want folks to know the strengths and weaknesses of replacement candidates?

Only the club would truly know that.

Dimma is gone if we fail again. Goodbye.

I have an idea on who I'd like to see in the role, but the reality is none of us have the good oil on that.

Agree. If the season is a failure and Dimma gets replaced the club will be on top of the best available replacement.

 

[DLR]

Bizarre comment.

Coming from you, meh! pot/kettle/black.

Who? Name names!

 

[Carter]

Coming from you, meh! pot/kettle/black.

Who? Name names!

Feel free to overact.

Was just commenting on your post, dude.

 

[asian tetley]

Benny Gale is not the sort of man to sit idly by - there will surely have been a trusted person(s) combing through coaching prospects, making a short list and checking it twice. I agree with you leon that it is not easy for the layperson to identify a suitable successor in the here and now, and also agree that people daring to call for Dimma's head should make the case for the alternative in the same breathe or STFU. It's lazy stuff for mine.

Benny Gale has been sitting idle for far too long as it is already.
Don't have much faith in Benny making the obvious call that's going to be needed on the senior coach.
Plugging memberships and putting bums on seats at B&F's is his specialty.

Its the clubs call on finding the next best coach not DImma's detractors surely.
Unfortunately the clubs call on senior coaches sinces Northey has been...very poor.

 

[Sintiger]

Leon, if we lose another EF I expect Dimma to be gone before he's had a chance to address the players.

I don't.

I believe that if we make the finals Dimma will be reappointed before they start and he may well be well before the finals if we are going well. I don't believe we will go into a finals series that is billed as the final or final series to save Dimmas job, they won't want that sort of distraction.

That means that it is possible we could lose an elimination final and Dimma keep his job.

 

[Carter]

I don't.

I believe that if we make the finals Dimma will be reappointed before they start and he may well be well before the finals if we are going well. I don't believe we will go into a finals series that is billed as the final or final series to save Dimmas job, they won't want that sort of distraction.

That means that it is possible we could lose an elimination final and Dimma keep his job.

Then you have a vision of doom :hihi

 

[jb03]

I don't.

I believe that if we make the finals Dimma will be reappointed before they start and he may well be well before the finals if we are going well. I don't believe we will go into a finals series that is billed as the final or final series to save Dimmas job, they won't want that sort of distraction.

That means that it is possible we could lose an elimination final and Dimma keep his job.

Hypothetically, if we don't have one injury this year, but fail to make the 8, who is under more pressure: Hardwick or F Jackson?

 

[Carter]

Hypothetically, if we don't have one injury this year, but fail to make the 8, who is under more pressure: Hardwick or F Jackson?

There are a bunch of players who will come on (Menadue, Costagna, Short, Rioli, etc) and make FJ's record look very, very good.

 

[HR]

Then you have a vision of doom :hihi

Should we cut off our nose to spite our face?
My take. The only reason dimma will be replaced is if his replacement is proven to be better ie a successful coach at AFL level in recent years. These coaches don't become available often. RFC don't have a good track record of enticing the cream of the crop in players so if it's to happen I reckon we will pay through the nose. RFC is too stable to go back to the old days without a really strong business reason. I think dimma will be with us unless we fail catastrophically. This is not failing in the finals but more likely knowing around round 15 that we cannot make the finals. (Or getting good beaten by the bombers! )

 

[Carter]

Should we cut off our nose to spite our face?
My take. The only reason dimma will be replaced is if his replacement is proven to be better ie a successful coach at AFL level in recent years. These coaches don't become available often. RFC don't have a good track record of enticing the cream of the crop in players so if it's to happen I reckon we will pay through the nose. RFC is too stable to go back to the old days without a really strong business reason. I think dimma will be with us unless we fail catastrophically. This is not failing in the finals but more likely knowing around round 15 that we cannot make the finals. (Or getting good beaten by the bombers! )

If we keep Dimma after another EF loss we deserve to languish at the bottom with Melbourne, Carlton and Essendon.

But hey, we might continue to register a slim profit so I guess that's something.

I hear you HR, but if what you say transpires we are a scared, damp squib of a club.

 

[St Kevin]

I think the coach of the Carolina Panthers' Ron Rivera (Richmond supporter and probable NFL MVP Cam Newton's team) is a good model for Dimma.

Rivera had a reputation for being overly conservative. Now he's known as Riverboat Ron, as a result of repeatedly backing younger players and making gutsy decisions. They now find themselves in the Super Bowl.

I think Dimma needs to take some more risks period (with player selection, with tactics). As a gameday coach he has also been left wanting at crucial moments.

This will sound a bit strange, but apart from our finals failures Dimma has been a pretty big success. However whether he's the right man to get this team deep into September/October remains to be seen. A good start would be to get a little unpredictable.

 

[HR]

I just read the following from a quote dimma made re elimination final last year.
"It didn't work out for us on the day, but if I could go back and do it again I'd do it again."
No dimma wrong answer. Use the 20 20 vision available to you. Griffiths or conca dont play if you get to do it again!!! Learn from past mistakes don't repeat them.

 

[Carter]

I think the coach of the Carolina Panthers' Ron Rivera (Richmond supporter and probable NFL MVP Cam Newton's team) is a good model for Dimma.

Rivera had a reputation for being overly conservative. Now he's known as Riverboat Ron, as a result of repeatedly backing younger players and making gutsy decisions. They now find themselves in the Super Bowl.

I think Dimma needs to take some more risks period (with player selection, with tactics). As a gameday coach he has also been left wanting at crucial moments.

This will sound a bit strange, but apart from our finals failures Dimma has been a pretty big success. However whether he's the right man to get this team deep into September/October remains to be seen. A good start would be to get a little unpredictable.

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[asian tetley]

I just read the following from a quote dimma made re elimination final last year.
"It didn't work out for us on the day, but if I could go back and do it again I'd do it again."
No dimma wrong answer. Use the 20 20 vision available to you. Griffiths or conca dont play if you get to do it again!!! Learn from past mistakes don't repeat them.

Yes I saw that quote from Dimma.
The point you make is right on the money. "Learn from past mistakes don't repeat them"

As a critic of Dimma that is one of my main issues with his coaching.his failure to learn from past mistakes. Dimma makes the same old mistakes over and over. Call it obstinacy or sheer pig headed ness he refuses to yield despite repeated failures.

Today's quote from Dimma tells me that he will never change and his inflexibility in his coaching will cost him.

 

[Baloo]

Hypothetically, if we don't have one injury this year, but fail to make the 8, who is under more pressure: Hardwick or F Jackson?

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[TigerMasochist]

I don't.

I believe that if we make the finals Dimma will be reappointed before they start and he may well be well before the finals if we are going well. I don't believe we will go into a finals series that is billed as the final or final series to save Dimmas job, they won't want that sort of distraction.

That means that it is possible we could lose an elimination final and Dimma keep his job.

Wouldn't surprise me at all if, barring a major disaster at the start of the season. Dimma gets re appointed by midway through this year.
Apart from the obviously painful elimination final colliwobbles the last few years, Dimma and the team have done pretty bloody consistently well during the home n away series. We've managed to beat sides home n interstate. Recover from disaster periods during the season. Beat other finals contending teams. The players obviously like Dimma n enjoy the way things operate around the club.

Only one major blot on the copy book n that's the finals losses. From my point of view, that's easily as much on the players as it is on the coaches. Time for the players to grow some big boys toys when finals roll around n show everyone they've got them. The coaches don't run out onto the ground when the siren blows, that's the players job.
If the team is good enough to beat up on the Hawks or Freo n Sydaknee during the year, then the team is good enough to beat up on them during finals instead of turning turtle because it's a finals game.

 

[Sintiger]

If we keep Dimma after another EF loss we deserve to languish at the bottom with Melbourne, Carlton and Essendon.

But hey, we might continue to register a slim profit so I guess that's something.

I hear you HR, but if what you say transpires we are a scared, damp squib of a club.

It won't be like that. He will be reappointed during the season before finals if we are going well and if we crash then he probably won't be.

In my opinion losing an elimination final and then deciding to reappoint him or not will not happen. We will not enter a final series with Dimma unsigned.

Personal opinion but I will be very surprised if I am wrong