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Damien Hardwick [Merged]

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Just read the AFL article.

I've been buzzing for about a week as cricket season winds and football is nearly upon us. Well talk about taking a massive sized pin and pricking my balloon.

I am as flat as a pancake right now.

The guy is dead set clueless. Nothing will happen and we will waste another year but really this bloke should have his desk packed and be moved on before the weekend is out.
 
Hardwick logic. We are no 2 in contested ball all year so we'll double down on non composed grunt.

Memo: ball retention and ball use efficiency is where we need to improve. Doubling down on grunt wont help that, it will make it worse.

Admits selection mistake and says he'd do it again. That basically epitomises the Hardwick era!!

He'd rather be wrong his way than right someone else's way.

Stubbornness only takes you so far before you're just embarrassing .
 
To Rosy's question. No.

Must be interesting in the box with Dimma.

Supplicants: Dimma, their forward line is off the leash.

Dimma: mmmm...double down on grunt.

S: Dimma, they're triple teaming Jack and running the ball out too easy.

D: mmmm ....triple down on grunt.

S: Dimma...they are killing us outside.

D: mmmmm... quadruple down on grunt.

S: Dimma, our ball efficiency is down.

D: mmmmm......quintuple down on grunt.

S: Dimma..... our game plan has turned to treacle. We cant move the ball by hand or foot and we have no run whatsoever. We have too many grunts. What do we do?

D; mmmmm...

S Yes Dimma..

D mmmmmm.....

S: Yes, yes....

D: ..........well this may be a bit controversial and a bit left field......

S: yes...yes....

D: Why don't we chuck Griff in.

S: is that it?


D mmmmm........Oh and sextuple down on grunt!!
 
lamb22 said:
Stubbornness only takes you so far before you're just a embarrassing flog.

Poor form mutton, you have every right to comment on him as a professional coach as your opinion sees fit, but to call him a flog is a massive insult, from all accounts he is a very nice guy with huge integrity, that the players love and also the administration.. Very popular person football wide, ridiculous insult...
 
Lamby. DH would prefer to lose rather than give some thought to others' suggestions.

DH. Play Beano for the season with a promise he won't be dropped.

Lamby. DH is my kinda coach. Extend his contract now.
 
lamb22 said:
Hardwick logic. We are no 2 in contested ball all year so we'll double down on non composed grunt.

Memo: ball retention and ball use efficiency is where we need to improve. Doubling down on grunt wont help that, it will make it worse.

Admits selection mistake and says he'd do it again. That basically epitomises the Hardwick era!!

He'd rather be wrong his way than right someone else's way.

Stubbornness only takes you so far before you're just a embarrassing flog.

I'm sorry you've lost me. There is part of an argument around better ball use in relation to Lennon, but Griffiths replaced him to try and stretch their talls and it worked in the first quarter as Dimma also mentioned, if Griffiths had kicked the 2 goals (as he should have) then it potentially could have been a different game.

The LLoyd / Conca one was because I think he wanted some additional midfield rotations. I'm less sure about what he was trying to achieve here and think Lloyd should have played but I'm not sure either really impacted too much on the result in the end. Conca did have his brainfade when we were looking to break and we were pretty open when he messed up that dinky kick but overall probably didn't impact the result.

The one area he really should have impacted the game was trying to get Cotchin into the game in a different way, he certainly should have been thrown forward to try and shake the tag as whatever Cotchin was doing wasn't enough to get rid of him, so IMO he should have been thrown forward as I think he would have had Jacobs in the air and could have impacted in the F50.

The other big one that people talk about was Jake Batchelors matchup and Grimes probably should have gone onto Waite but the real problem is the lack of flexibility that Batchelor provides us with, as he can only play on one type, too tall and he gets exposed, too quick and he gets exposed, too smart and he gets exposed. He wouldn't have coped with either Nahas or Thomas either so not sure of what we could have done.

Our real problem was our lack of flexibility which I think we've really tried to address in the off season. Our lack of flexibility has restricted our ability to mix things up on game day in the same way that we see the likes of Hawthorn playing. Batchelor has no flexibility and it will be interesting to see how we line up in the back half in 2016, will Yarran replace Batchrlor and take the smalls between him and Hunt with Grimes going to the 3rd tall player or does Yarran replace say Hunt. I hope the former. We've also relied on Cotchin too much as a ball extractor since Jacko and Tuck have retired, we've tried to address that with Townsend and Moore which is why I think at least one of them will be in the team from round 1, no idea which 1 is ahead at this stage, which should release this reliance on Cotchin and when he is tagged out of the game, someone else can support Miles with winning the contested ball, hopefully ending up in releasing Cotchin to be more damaging like his 2012 self.

So I kind of give Dimma some leeway on changing match ups as I don't think we have that right now, this is the difference between us being a good team that makes finals and us being a very good team that could challenge well into the finals. This is a timing thing in terms of our development from bottom rungers to where we are now and its the next stage in our development, adding flexibility and still being able to complete the game plan, instead of just being reliant on a handful of superstars to drag us over the line.
 
rosy23 said:
Lamby. DH would prefer to lose rather than give some thought to others' suggestions.

DH. Play Beano for the season with a promise he won't be dropped.

Lamby. DH is my kinda coach. Extend his contract now.

:hihi
 
Tigertough1974 said:
Poor form mutton, you have every right to comment on him as a professional coach as your opinion sees fit, but to call him a flog is a massive insult, from all accounts he is a very nice guy with huge integrity, that the players love and also the administration.. Very popular person football wide, ridiculous insult...

I agree Tigertough.

I had used the term earlier in the post and removed it as I don't like to venture into those terms.

Pique got the better of me and I didn't self censor the second time although it conveyed how I felt.

I apologise to the forum and Dimma and accordingly withdraw the term.
 
rosy23 said:
Lamby. DH would prefer to lose rather than give some thought to others' suggestions.

DH. Play Beano for the season with a promise he won't be dropped.

Lamby. DH is my kinda coach. Extend his contract now.

It's possible that you have captured my essence although not my manner of speech.

Words attributed to Hardwick though take your post into the realm of fantasy and that's even if you stop after word 2.!
 
Poshman. My comments relate to Hardwick's tenure to date not just the EF although they were sparked by Hardwick's comments about the EF and his proposed response this year.
 
Good on you for retracting that part of your post Lamby.

On the broader topic, I wouldn't get too fired up over what a newspaper article says or what people say publicly as an indication of what they are really thinking or planning. There's PR and there's football tactics and sometimes the two don't meet.
 
Tigertough1974 said:
Poor form mutton, you have every right to comment on him as a professional coach as your opinion sees fit, but to call him a flog is a massive insult, from all accounts he is a very nice guy with huge integrity, that the players love and also the administration.. Very popular person football wide, ridiculous insult...

What the saying?
Nice guys come last.

At the end of the day even nice guys have to perform.
 
asian tetley said:
What the saying?
Nice guys come last.

At the end of the day even nice guys have to perform.

Novak, Roger, plenty of nice guys come first, irrespective Lamby withdrew it as it was inappropriate, by all means say as you will on a forum about his coaching but Dimma is not a flog...
 
antman said:
Good on you for retracting that part of your post Lamby.

On the broader topic, I wouldn't get too fired up over what a newspaper article says or what people say publicly as an indication of what they are really thinking or planning. There's PR and there's football tactics and sometimes the two don't meet.

Where's your man going to take us this year Antman?
Finals?
Or if not is it time to give him the flick?
 
lamb22 said:
Poshman. My comments relate to Hardwick's tenure to date not just the EF although they were sparked by Hardwick's comments about the EF and his proposed response this year.

My comments were the same, not just about the EF. You claim he is inflexible, I don't necessarily think thats down to the coach, it may be, but its also where the list has been at present. They are good in their own positions and therefore when our main gameplan works, we can take it to the best of them, when it doesn't is when we become unstuck. This is what flexibility is for and why the Hawks have been so good, they have players that can seamlessly change position if where they have been playing hasn't been work, they can move to another and impact the game. We haven't had that the last few year but starting to see that coming into the list, Yarran will provide that, hopefully Townsend or A Moore can do the same.

This is the next stage in our list evolution and is one of the reasons why IMO it has looked like Hardwick hasn't wanted to mix things up, I don't think he's confident that we have that depth flexibility but starting to see that change now and hopefully that flexibility will be shown in 2016 and hopefully push us into the top 4.
 
asian tetley said:
Where's your man going to take us this year Antman?
Finals?
Or if not is it time to give him the flick?

I think I'm on the record as saying that if he doesn't improve finals results this year then it would be hard to keep him. Missing finals a definite no-no. I reckon his contact will be extended during the season after good H&A results so it will be academic.

PS Benny and Peggy are doing a great job, long may they continue.
 
antman said:
Good on you for retracting that part of your post Lamby.

On the broader topic, I wouldn't get too fired up over what a newspaper article says or what people say publicly as an indication of what they are really thinking or planning. There's PR and there's football tactics and sometimes the two don't meet.

That's what I keep hoping. Hardwick would have to be a master bluffer though if that were the case.
 
lamb22 said:
That's what I keep hoping. Hardwick would have to be a master bluffer though if that were the case.

TBF I haven't read the article yet, I shall do so and then concoct some masterful spin about how good DImma is at everything in life.
 
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