Damien Hardwick [Merged]

[Leysy Days]

As a Dimma doubter Leysy also agrees with that. To give us the best chance of success in 2016 he will be re-signed before round 1.

Mark that down as gospel Sin.

We will just pay his contract out if the year ends in failure.

 

[year of the tiger]

As a Dimma doubter Leysy also agrees with that. To give us the best chance of success in 2016 he will be re-signed before round 1.

Mark that down as gospel Sin.

We will just pay his contract out if the year ends in failure.

agree

This will sound a bit strange, but apart from our finals failures Dimma has been a pretty big success. However whether he's the right man to get this team deep into September/October remains to be seen. A good start would be to get a little unpredictable.

I don't think this is a surprise - we have been very consistent in the H/A and Hardwick has built the team well over this period - something I don't think Hardwick often receives the credit on here that he deserves.

 

[Chiang Mai Tiger]

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:hihi

 

[toby64]

Only one major blot on the copy book n that's the finals losses. From my point of view, that's easily as much on the players as it is on the coaches. Time for the players to grow some big boys toys when finals roll around n show everyone they've got them. The coaches don't run out onto the ground when the siren blows, that's the players job.
If the team is good enough to beat up on the Hawks or Freo n Sydaknee during the year, then the team is good enough to beat up on them during finals instead of turning turtle because it's a finals game.

Exactly. Cotchin doesn't get a touch...Dimma should have moved him. He's apparently an elite midfielder but no it's Dimmas fault he embarrassed himself in the biggest game of his career. Ditto Brandon Ellis, Shane Edwards etc.

Next people will be blaming Dimma for the holocaust.

 

[Rancey18]

FWIW, I think Dimma will be extended for another year before Rd 1 (with a payout to occur if we don't perform to expectations this year).

 

[yandb]

Should we cut off our nose to spite our face?
My take. The only reason dimma will be replaced is if his replacement is proven to be better ie a successful coach at AFL level in recent years. These coaches don't become available often. RFC don't have a good track record of enticing the cream of the crop in players so if it's to happen I reckon we will pay through the nose. RFC is too stable to go back to the old days without a really strong business reason. I think dimma will be with us unless we fail catastrophically. This is not failing in the finals but more likely knowing around round 15 that we cannot make the finals. (Or getting good beaten by the bombers! )

And Dimma has proven he can take us to a premiership?

No the only reason Dimma will be here if he fails to make a dint in the finals this year is our committee is too afraid of making the hard choices.

 

[jb03]

From https://***********/AFL/status/692304320126013440

#AskTheCoach

Tiger Tragic ‏@tiger_tragic · 51m51 minutes ago
@AFL @Richmond_FC After 3 successive failed finals campaigns & 7 years as coach, if we don't win a final in 2016, is it time for you to go?

:hihi

Caught a bit of the Leppitsch/Brisabane one. SOmeone asked him "Leppa, with BRAX returning to the Bay do you think that the Riverboyz will become a force again?"

Leppa responded that he was more concerned with another sort of Home and Away.

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True dat.

 

[Tigaman]

Just read an afl.com.au article on Dimma in regards to Dimma being haunted by last years Elimination final catastrophe. He does not blame himself for selecting unfit players Griff & Conca (should included Sheds as well) yet I do think most Tiger supporters would agree Tigers lost it at Dimma's selection table. It was a great opportunity to gain some respect downing the Arden St lot but Dimma blew it , bigtime. I do think Dimma will be the first coach to be sacked this year.

 

[Midsy]

...yet I do think most Tiger supporters would agree Tigers lost it at Dimma's selection table.

So by inference, you're saying we'd have won if Lloyd and Lennon had played.

Do you think those two would have made up the -33 contested ball? Or would they have found some other miracle to perform?

We lost because it was a substandard performance by most of the players and coaches, on the day.

 

[toby64]

Just read an afl.com.au article on Dimma in regards to Dimma being haunted by last years Elimination final catastrophe. He does not blame himself for selecting unfit players Griff & Conca (should included Sheds as well) yet I do think most Tiger supporters would agree Tigers lost it at Dimma's selection table. It was a great opportunity to gain some respect downing the Arden St lot but Dimma blew it , bigtime. I do think Dimma will be the first coach to be sacked this year.

The selections didn't help, but would our so called leaders in the likes of Cotchin, Edwards, Ellis, Chaplin etc have extracted the digit just because Lennon and Lloyd were out there? Saying we lost it at the selection table is bollocks.

too many players who go missing in September under real heat. That's the problem. And what makes it worse is that a few of em are our supposed better players. But of course that's Dimmas fault too. :spin

 

[Tigaman]

It was a repeat of 2014 when Newman got the nod. He was like an underdone steak & we bled. Over the years teams that go into finals with players who are under done , bleed .

 

[Sintiger]

It was a repeat of 2014 when Newman got the nod. He was like an underdone steak & we bled. Over the years teams that go into finals with players who are under done , bleed .

I have yet to write Dimma off as a Coach but I can't agree with his take on Conca and Griffiths. I would have them in my team if both fit and match hardened but picking them in the EF was a mistake, no doubt.

 

[mrposhman]

So by inference, you're saying we'd have won if Lloyd and Lennon had played.

Do you think those two would have made up the -33 contested ball? Or would they have found some other miracle to perform?

We lost because it was a substandard performance by most of the players and coaches, on the day.

Agree midsy, the selection probably didn't make a great deal of difference in the end. Theorectically having Conca come off the bench should have improved our contested ball and whilst we were so good at contested ball for much of the rest of the season, Dimma rolled the dice that Griffiths's height would have given us an advantage being as Firrito would have had to have picked up either Griffiths or TV which should have given them a significant advantage over him. Shame that we couldn't win the contested ball but I'm not sure what Lloyd or Lennon would have provided to have changed this much.

 

[HR]

Carter and yandb, I don't disagree with what you are saying. We need to achieve more, we need to see improved performance from our young players, we need to see better coaching and so much more trust me I agree. I just cannot see Hardwick getting sacked unless we have a better option. This is the crux of the matter for me. Who is the better option? And can we have them entertain the idea of taking the reigns. Unless this replacement is obvious it ain't gunna happen.

 

[asian tetley]

And Dimma has proven he can take us to a premiership?

No the only reason Dimma will be here if he fails to make a dint in the finals this year is our committee is too afraid of making the hard choices.

Agree.
Let's not forget by his own admission Dimma had a bad day in the coaching box v North.
Let's not forget that was his third successive elimination final.
That is inexcusable.
At most other league clubs he would have been sacked.

But not at our club.
Why?

 

[K3]

At the end of his first year I said that Dimma needed to remove the shackles it seemed the players had on them. They played as if burdened. While structures, systems and accountability are v important, I don't know, it is just like we are a team that has forgotten how to get out there and have fun, run amok, get a bit of razzle dazzle going...

As someone said previously, about an NFL coach, time to loosen the reins and let the players natural instincts, and flair, play a part.

 

[jb03]

Agree.
Let's not forget by his own admission Dimma had a bad day in the coaching box v North.
Let's not forget that was his third successive elimination final.
That is inexcusable.
At most other league clubs he would have been sacked.

But not at our club.
Why?

Not sure a sacking is was/n order but by his own Hardwick has admitted both having a bad day in the coaches box and would doing it all again. Seems a little odd.

 

[Tigers of Old]

Not sure a sacking is was/n order but by his own Hardwick has admitted both having a bad day in the coaches box and would doing it all again. Seems a little odd.

Very. :-\

Stubborn as hey our coach.

 

[houdini]

So by inference, you're saying we'd have won if Lloyd and Lennon had played.

Do you think those two would have made up the -33 contested ball? Or would they have found some other miracle to perform?

We lost because it was a substandard performance by most of the players and coaches, on the day.

we lost it when scotty from dork melb rested players in the last round , and the next week dork melb easily had our measure , but dimma is too stupid to follow what other sides have done by resting players when the finals places are locked in . DIMMA is not the man to deliver us SUCCESS and until the powers that run the club work it out we are doomed and will miss the premiership window

 

[asian tetley]

we lost it when scotty from dork melb rested players in the last round , and the next week dork melb easily had our measure , but dimma is too stupid to follow what other sides have done by resting players when the finals places are locked in . DIMMA is not the man to deliver us SUCCESS and until the powers that run the club work it out we are doomed and will miss the premiership window

Agree with everything you say.
Unfortunately the "powers that run the club" re football matters fall into the mediocre category ditto our senior coach.

We have been badly let down by previous administrations and are being dudded by the present one, re football department matters.