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Damien Hardwick [Merged]
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FWIW BG said on SEN this morning that they won't rush on Dimma's contract.
So it will probably be announced tomorrow. :spin
So it will probably be announced tomorrow. :spin
mrposhman said:
Posh apart from drafting more players the other way to develop flexibility is to coach it during the season with your existing players.
It is one area of weakness Hardwick has is his preference to maintain the statue quo, if players drop form maybe bringing in new players and back them for a couple of games so see what they bring would be a start.
This would bring a belief to the players who are pushing for a senior berth that they have a chance on their merit not just if injuries strike.
It also sends a message to the senior players that if you short step going for the ball or you don't want to chase that a stint in the two's is going to be a reality.
Next time we play North Bachelor should not be an automatic selection, instead both Elton and Astbury if their form is good should be the preference.
It is good to have a solid back six but if we are inflexible when it comes to our opponents forward set ups then this inflexibility works against us.
Tigers of Old said:
Mid-Feb is early enough I suppose. I've got my doubts on Dimma but there really isn't anyone else that stands out as any better at the moment.
I wouldn't be surprised they give him 2 year extension as that should finally see him out if we fail this season and 2017. We'll probably be back to a mini re-build by 2018 with some oldies (Lids?
) ready to leave or be cut off, and younger ones of now ready to step up, all under a new coach.Tigers of Old said:
Was a bit all around it really wasn't he, said "we had committees and meetings and processes to go through, that Damien didn't need the Club to rush it to give him motivation for the year, that he was very self-motivated", or words to that effect.
It is being discussed nearly every time some one in the media talks to a Richmond person (Board or other senior management). If it were imminent you would think BG would just throw some cold water about now and say something like '.....it will take care of itself, you might hear something in the next couple weeks or month I think.....' Perhaps it's not quite so unanimous as we might think at the moment?
Would he be that attractive to another AFL Club at the moment? Perhaps to a Club that had had it said to it 'this is my last year' (Freo or Hawks), but not winning a final after three shots at it probably is as big a worry to other Clubs as it is to ourselves. The Club might just keeps it's powder dry a bit longer yet.
Good news from Benny.
Half way mark of the season at the earliest for mine.
If as likely Hardwick triples down on grunt we will again blow winnable games early and if we are poorly placed at half way we just start the transition to a new coach and thank Dimma for the rabbits.
It will be heartbreaking though to blow another season with the list we've got. Absolute wastrel is our Dimma.
Half way mark of the season at the earliest for mine.
If as likely Hardwick triples down on grunt we will again blow winnable games early and if we are poorly placed at half way we just start the transition to a new coach and thank Dimma for the rabbits.
It will be heartbreaking though to blow another season with the list we've got. Absolute wastrel is our Dimma.
Club will again be in the spotlight if Dimma is unsigned and we have another bad start to the year.
Geez you'd reckon he'd be nervous as all get out.
You got the media asking (at this stage) polite questions, you got the recruiting team picking guys that are kryptonite to him, you got a seriously under achieving list, and finally 70k members breathing down your neck.
A stolid guy is Dimma. I admire many qualities in the man, not so many in the coach.
He needs to release our skill, not contain it.
The NAB games won't tell us much in the way of tactics but at least we'll get to see who's in the frame for Round 1.
Pressure well and truly on.
You got the media asking (at this stage) polite questions, you got the recruiting team picking guys that are kryptonite to him, you got a seriously under achieving list, and finally 70k members breathing down your neck.
A stolid guy is Dimma. I admire many qualities in the man, not so many in the coach.
He needs to release our skill, not contain it.
The NAB games won't tell us much in the way of tactics but at least we'll get to see who's in the frame for Round 1.
Pressure well and truly on.
Carter said:
We agree at last.
Being a process coach (as Dimma admits to being) does not necessarily release skill, though perhaps it builds it over time. The problem then becomes which coach builds better process in the faster time. My problem is I'm not convinced ours is the better process because whenever we are expected to roll along - we don't. Sure we beat Hawthorn who undoubtedly has the best process (proven), but I would argue games like that were more won on ideal preparation and super-motivation than the usual process. We have done our best work in the season when all seemed lost or backs to the wall, and the process might well have been seen as less important and the release of skill that you talk about Carter was allowed to happen.
I've said before that I think Dimma is the antithesis of John Northey. Both have amazing qualities as coaches. But I think we need a little of the John Northey style right now, trust what process has been developed and start igniting the ultra passion and discover whether we can take some game games by the scruff, by what you define Carter as 'releasing the skills' and letting some players (not all) play a little more instinctively.
DLR said:
I agree completely about the 'process' not allowing us to get a run on.
Brilliant insight I reckon.
How often are we six goals up at half time but end up winning by a slim margin?
It's like we constantly return to a defensive base line, the structure that has been hammered into us.
Good for a mechanical 14-15 win season with a percentage that is just ok.
No smashings, no blow-outs, no capitalisation on good form.
Great insight DLR.
Quote from Ben Cousins in his book, My Life Story.
" Dimma set out his blueprint of how he wanted Richmond to play. For someone who had been around footy a long time, i was suprised at how different it was from anything i'd been part of...But now, team defence-techniques of how to cohere as a team when the opposition had the ball-was where the game was evolving...To his credit, he never wavered in his belief in what he was implementing, and the players bought into it."
6 years later and i still believe he hasn't wavered from that plan. Have we had long enough to see if it works? It worked for Hawthorn but perhaps we've missed the boat...
" Dimma set out his blueprint of how he wanted Richmond to play. For someone who had been around footy a long time, i was suprised at how different it was from anything i'd been part of...But now, team defence-techniques of how to cohere as a team when the opposition had the ball-was where the game was evolving...To his credit, he never wavered in his belief in what he was implementing, and the players bought into it."
6 years later and i still believe he hasn't wavered from that plan. Have we had long enough to see if it works? It worked for Hawthorn but perhaps we've missed the boat...
WOW, that's a shallow and very uninspiring pool of candidates. If that's the best of the prospective coaches then give Dimma a two year extension and let's get on with it.lamb22 said:
Get into Hodgies ear about joining our coaching team when his playing days are done, with a view to fast tracking into the senior job. He makes no secret of being a mad tiger supporter as a kid and still has a soft spot for us. Who knows he could turn out be our Kevin Sheedy.
If history serves as any sort of guide the Tigers approached Hardwick about taking the senior job 12 months prior to it becoming available so if Dimma tenure is in any sort of doubt his replacement would have been identified and approached already. If it is Dew then I hope catering isn't part of the deal :cutelaugh
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