Draft picks 2019

tigersnake

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Heard on the grapevine that the Bris academy boys are both considered pure mids by industry boffins. Scoop should be happy
 
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tigerlove

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Heard on the grapevine that the Bris academy boys are both considered pure minds by industry boffins. Scoop should be happy
Will Martyn in particular looks like he could be very dangerous outside as well. Quite impressed actually. Clearly at the state team level they weren't getting the inside midfield duties that other more fancied players were getting.
 

eZyT

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Will Martyn in particular looks like he could be very dangerous outside as well. Quite impressed actually. Clearly at the state team level they weren't getting the inside midfield duties that other more fancied players were getting.
Its a good point. Ive seen a few pure mids flounder in pockets and on flanks at carnivals.

Its one the reasons the really good recruiting depts can leave us scratching our heads. Theyve watched these kids very closely for 3 years by draft day and see sooooo much more than the national champs
 
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zippadeee

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As the norm. Collingwood have killed it when comes to drafting.
Rated A by a turd at the AFL
Outstanding by Buckenera
The AGE says Collingwood considering they had very late picks found 2 beauties.

but us, we rated c after bringing in not 2 but 5 new kids
Buckernea reckons our kids need alot of development.
The Age even forgot we were involved in the draft

once again the hate towards us is there for everyone to see.

i wouldn’t know talent, but im pretty sure if you draft 5 kids under pick 60, you bound to at least find one that is a beauty.

my pick is Micky Martin
 
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Jonesracing82

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As the norm. Collingwood have killed it when comes to drafting.
Rated A by a turd at the AFL
Outstanding by Buckenera
The AGE says Collingwood considering they had very late picks found 2 beauties.

but us, we rated c after bringing in not 2 but 5 new kids
Buckernea reckons our kids need alot of development.
The Age even forgot we were involved in the draft

once again the hate towards us is there for everyone to see.

i wouldn’t know talent, but im pretty sure if you draft 5 kids under pick 60, you bound to at least find one that is a beauty.

my pick is Micky Martin
I wouldn't doubt Bucky, he's the only 1 that has Lobb as an A Gradrer & Vlastuin as a C grader.
 
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UKTiger

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It seems as though we have done quite well in the draft. I am sure all the newbies realise tat they know next to nothing about real footy and the hard work on a steep learning curve begins. Good luck to each and every one of them and hope they have a long and successful career at the Tigers
 
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The_General

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All these draft review articles work by a formula, which is largely:

When did the pick and how many?
Did they fill list needs?
Were the players selected rated above or below the pick prior to the draft?

This is quite amusing as most journo go by industry scuttlebutt which suggest who is interested in what player and do phantom drafts based off that rather than a kids talent.

Which makes the comparison to phantom drafts hilarious when clubs deliberately obfuscate to ensure their cards are close to their chest. However they're paid to do a job and they're not all Emma whatshernames, so you expect uninformed drivel.
 
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BrisTiger24

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We are going to need to find replacement mids for Cotchin and Martin sooner rather than later.
Mssrs Rowell and Anderson will come across at just the right time!

I also have a strong feeling Tom Green will come across at some point
 
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tigerdell

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Robertson and bianco look classy in their highlights packages but I can see why we overlooked them. We put a premium on what a player can do without the ball. We look at run, intensity, pressure, repeat efforts. Full court press. There's a chapter in stronger and bolder called position over possession. Lambert never got picked in a draft but is one of our most important to how we play. Most would have picked Menzel over Castagna.
agree with this, and no problem with the picks. happy with how the club recruits.
but there is a counterargument to pick on what has been delivered, not potential.
And that someone like Robertson, who gets so much of the ball, clearances, tackles etc and plays as a fearless leader, that he would also be the most capable on playing to position and defensive efforts.
Not a knock on Dow but Robertson has the runs on the board and proven capable.
He seemed the right pick.
perhaps it's list balance and he is too similar to Ross and Graham? who knows.
 
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Sintiger

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Exactly. When listening to our recruiters talk about what we do all it means is that our rankings are different to the phantoms. The way it was explained is that we have a ranking and players get crossed off when they get picked. We didn't have a deliberate strategy of picking academy kids we simply had those players next in our rankings so we bid. So we ranked both of the Brisbane kids higher than Bianco (as an example). It's no more complicated than that.
We will always rate our picks highly post draft because we always pick the highest rated player on our rankings list
I guess the only cavaet on that is we probably wanted one tall at least
 
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spook

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agree with this, and no problem with the picks. happy with how the club recruits.
but there is a counterargument to pick on what has been delivered, not potential.
And that someone like Robertson, who gets so much of the ball, clearances, tackles etc and plays as a fearless leader, that he would also be the most capable on playing to position and defensive efforts.
Not a knock on Dow but Robertson has the runs on the board and proven capable.
He seemed the right pick.
perhaps it's list balance and he is too similar to Ross and Graham? who knows.
There's a few factors, IMO. Scope being the main one - Robertson seen as more developed, Dow with greater improvement to come. Robertson's kicking concerned many clubs. I think Dow's hands are better.

Similarity to a few already on the list possibly another factor. Robertson would be behind Graham, Ross and RCD for the inside bull role, not to mention our established mids.

And there's been talk of go-home factor. Why pick a kid to play seconds for two years and leave.

We back our men. They've earned it.
 
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Scoop

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Heard on the grapevine that the Bris academy boys are both considered pure mids by industry boffins. Scoop should be happy
In no way shape or form could Cumberland be considered a mid. Averaging 14 touches a game you can’t project into a mid.
 
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eZyT

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In no way shape or form could Cumberland be considered a mid. Averaging 14 touches a game you can’t project into a mid.
My mail says The Lions considered him a long term mid?

'The highlight was a 26-possession game including 13 contested possessions against Dandenong, when playing more of a midfield role.'

I also thought Clarke in his wrap said he'll start forward and push up?

I could be wrong.

Purely from memory, sheds was recruited as a skinny flanker with low possession counts?

Its possible (im speculating) that The Lions wanted him to NOT be a mid due to list needs, and were trying to make him something he isn't.

My source had watched pretty much every game he's played at every level since he was 16.

which conflicts with the bio on RFC which says his 18th year was his first in the elite pathway. I'm pretty sure this is wrong?

Ive never laid eyes on anything hes ever done. haven't even watched his reel.
 
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eZyT

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Robertson's kicking concerned many clubs. I think Dow's hands are better.
Theres simply no longer any place at Tigerland for blokes who can't hit the target

If you're under 190, there's Possibly even no longer any place if you cant open up the MCG like a grass surgeon.
 

tigerlove

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In no way shape or form could Cumberland be considered a mid. Averaging 14 touches a game you can’t project into a mid.
Hard to know. He did get 26 disposals, 13 contested and 9 clearances in the game he played predominantly mid. He has a very high percentage of contested ball across all his games so has potential. Only kicked 5 goals, 3 in one game, so doesn't seem to be a forward. Just not sure what the plan is with Cumberland.
 

tigersnake

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In no way shape or form could Cumberland be considered a mid. Averaging 14 touches a game you can’t project into a mid.
No way shape or form? Well a couple of lions academy coaches might beg to differ. I wouldn't have a clue myself.
 

Scoop

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Blokes who aren’t mids in junior ranks don’t become full time mids.

The lad has heaps of tools to work with but he won’t become a full time mid.
 

tigerdell

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that's my surprise at the whole draft picks - all potential but without regular performance in the juniors.
very speculative based on scope to improve.

Pick the kid who plays as a mid in the juniors, the one who has been consistently the best
He may have a lower ceiling but already starts higher!
Dow vs Robertson was the anti-higgins pick.
 
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tigerdell

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We back our men. They've earned it.
Totally. Happy to prognosticate here on PRE, and robustly discuss the finer points.
but no tears or meltdown.
Our recruiting blokes are doing bloody good job
 
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UKTiger

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Totally. Happy to prognosticate here on PRE, and robustly discuss the finer points.
but no tears or meltdown.
Our recruiting blokes are doing bloody good job
I agree. The recruiters have to stand by their work and decisions on who is best for the club. We on the other hand are just able to watch the players progress and criticise or praise as they progress. We have the easy job
 
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