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Gill’s legacy

Easy - Have they left the game itself (not $$$'s as it's not for profit remember) in a better place than before they assumed the position.

And that is not just the top tier AFL league itself but every pyramid league underneath it. This is the primary goal under the AFL CEO's watch.

Know that and you have your answer.

For Leysy the answers are:

- AFL League - No
- Every League underneath the AFL - MASSIVE NO: Tasmania, Country footy (doubt Gil could spell Kyabram) and basically every league outside AFL. This is Gil's real legacy.
- AFLW Introduction and development - Yes. This is Gil's positive.
 
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Did you post questions, quote your own post and answer the questions?

Leysys x Leysys by Leysy.

The circle of Leysy.
 
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For Leysy the answers are:

- AFL League - No
- Every League underneath the AFL - MASSIVE NO: Tasmania, Country footy (doubt Gil could spell Kyabram) and basically every league outside AFL. This is Gil's real legacy.
- AFLW Introduction and development - Yes. This is Gil's positive.

That's fair reasoning and good points made. The only part I think is questionable is the first rating. I think the overwhelming majority of people in the industry would give that a resounding yes.
 
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It's interesting the different perspectives we see when it comes to leaders.

You have politicians like Dan Andrews who people are for or against largely due to their own personal values and beliefs, and the judgement of how they perform is aligned with that.

Then you have organisations where people are invested in supporting, like a footy club. There leaders like the President or coach are fiercely supported by those who are loyal to the club, but if the club doesn't perform they can also turn hard against them.

An organisation like the AFL though has no supporters, no-one barracks for the AFL. So they are generally universally disliked by everyone. In this case you have a CEO where the view on him from people within the game seems pretty positive, even really positive but the fans all hate his guts.

The question is how do you measure a legacy in that circumstance, when the likelihood is you can take it as a given all fans hate the AFL.
Its both astonishing and predictable that you can type this with a straight face. There are basic, internationally recognised and accepted principles of good corporate governance. Transparency, accountability, diversity, integrity. These are measurable. Good organisations measure them all time, as does the AFL nominally, but they use their own measuring tape and ignore them when they are inconvenient.

Diversity? The top brass are all rich white men, and mates, siblings even, who went to the same private school. And now they are all too scared to lose GM, because nobody else is good enough to solve all the problems he and his cronies have created? Its a farce whichever way you look at it, except if you're the AFL of course.

they are clinging to GM because a shakeup, big or small, will come when he leaves. Understandably, they are *smile* scared of that, both for being even partially exposed as poor to mediocre, and also copping some scrutiny, and even possibly losing their cushy well paid gigs.
 
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Its both astonishing and predictable that you can type this with a straight face. There are basic, internationally recognised and accepted principles of good corporate governance. Transparency, accountability, diversity, integrity. These are measurable. Good organisations measure them all time, as does the AFL nominally, but they use their own measuring tape and ignore them when they are inconvenient.

Diversity? The top brass are all rich white men, and mates, siblings even, who went to the same private school. And now they are all too scared to lose GM, because nobody else is good enough to solve all the problems he and his cronies have created? Its a farce whichever way you look at it, except if you're the AFL of course.

they are clinging to GM because a shakeup, big or small, will come when he leaves. Understandably, they are *smile* scared of that, both for being even partially exposed as poor to mediocre, and also copping some scrutiny, and even possibly losing their cushy well paid gigs.
1. Transparency - Definite no. Opaque is where the AFL lies on this scale.

2. Accountability - Is there a snort emoji? Obfuscation is the skill most practiced by anyone AFL.

3. Diversity - Snake summed it up perfectly.

4. Integrity - What, AFL integrity? :ROFLMAO: The word appears on someone's job title at AFL HQ. It is not required as a function of the job. See 2 above.
 
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1. Transparency - Definite no. Opaque is where the AFL lies on this scale.

2. Accountability - Is there a snort emoji? Obfuscation is the skill most practiced by anyone AFL.

3. Diversity - Snake summed it up perfectly.

4. Integrity - What, AFL integrity? :ROFLMAO: The word appears on someone's job title at AFL HQ. It is not required as a function of the job. See 2 above.
yeah, but besides that they're going ok.
 
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Go to the 47 second mark never seen a sport in the world where it's governing body expects the big clubs support the other clubs financially yet Gill parades the record TV deal recently nothing but corruption it's your job to support the other clubs mind you didn't return the cash.
 
Here is part of the latest.
Can anyone advise on Dillon?

Since the AFL Commission's inception in late 1985, just four people have sat in the CEO chair – Ross Oakley (finished 1996), Wayne Jackson (1996-2003), Andrew Demetriou (2003-14) and McLachlan. There are no shrinking violets nor self-confidence doubts on that list, yet McLachlan's charm, power, engaging personality and mindset – which has infiltrated seemingly every workplace inside the AFL ecosystem – has meant that replacing him will be impossible.

While weaning itself off McLachlan has been problematic according to some clubs, retaining his services long after his public announcement of an exit was a no-brainer and considered best outcome by the AFL Commission.

There is no doubt that the explosive allegations contained in the ABC report into alleged racism at Hawthorn, which were published in Grand Final week last year, ultimately led to the farewell period running all the way through to April this year.

Protecting the new CEO from the myriad fallout still to come in the Hawthorn matter became prominent in overall replacement machinations, as this matter has even more complexity than the Essendon drugs saga of 2013.

The AFL Commission met on Wednesday this week, where the final stages of the new CEO search were thrashed out. It had already been decided that interviews would be conducted with remaining candidates as soon as Thursday this week. Of the AFL headquarters applicants, Kylie Rogers, Travis Auld and Andrew Dillon will all be given chances to sell themselves for the main job. Externally, the CEOs at Richmond and GWS – Brendon Gale and Dave Matthews – are said to remain in the mix. In the eyes of many senior people across the AFL industry, Dillon is cited as favourite.
 
The AFL Commission met on Wednesday this week, where the final stages of the new CEO search were thrashed out. It had already been decided that interviews would be conducted with remaining candidates as soon as Thursday this week. Of the AFL headquarters applicants, Kylie Rogers, Travis Auld and Andrew Dillon will all be given chances to sell themselves for the main job. Externally, the CEOs at Richmond and GWS – Brendon Gale and Dave Matthews – are said to remain in the mix. In the eyes of many senior people across the AFL industry, Dillon is cited as favourite.

Did Kylie Rogers recently leave the AFL?

I heard all of that list has made it to the second stage of interviews, plus Tom Harley who is coming home like Seabiscuit.
 
The AFL Commission met on Wednesday this week, where the final stages of the new CEO search were thrashed out. It had already been decided that interviews would be conducted with remaining candidates as soon as Thursday this week. Of the AFL headquarters applicants, Kylie Rogers, Travis Auld and Andrew Dillon will all be given chances to sell themselves for the main job. Externally, the CEOs at Richmond and GWS – Brendon Gale and Dave Matthews – are said to remain in the mix. In the eyes of many senior people across the AFL industry, Dillon is cited as favourite.

Disappointed Christine Holgate isn't in the running. She would be the best person to eradicate the toxic boys club and overwhelming arrogance that’s destroying the game. Benny Gale can do this as well, although I doubt he is a realistic chance.
 
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Did Kylie Rogers recently leave the AFL?

I heard all of that list has made it to the second stage of interviews, plus Tom Harley who is coming home like Seabiscuit.
No sure who Tom Harley is BR.
Was he someone of note at the Cats?
 
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Barrett on his podcast today again said that he feels like Gale is behind other candidates in the running for the AFL CEO role based on our clubs behavior in the hub during 2020.

I’ve said before and will say again, why isn’t the football media covering this story in more detail? Where are you Caro, Niall, Robinson, McClure and the other media sycophants? We have only had vague allusion to a “war” between club and HQ and throw-away comments buried paragraphs deep in articles on other topics. Did this falling out have anything to do with subsequent rule changes? The timeline seems to suggest so.

If our club and by extension the CEO behaved so appalling in the hub that it has effectively ruled Gale out of becoming AFL CEO I would sure well like to know a bit more about it.
 
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Barrett on his podcast today again said that he feels like Gale is behind other candidates in the running for the AFL CEO role based on our clubs behavior in the hub during 2020.

I’ve said before and will say again, why isn’t the football media covering this story in more detail? Where are you Caro, Niall, Robinson, McClure and the other media sycophants? We have only had vague allusion to a “war” between club and HQ and throw-away comments buried paragraphs deep in articles on other topics. Did this falling out have anything to do with subsequent rule changes? The timeline seems to suggest so.

If our club and by extension the CEO behaved so appalling in the hub that it has effectively ruled Gale out of becoming AFL CEO I would sure well like to know a bit more about it.

Considering the trouble at AFLHQ regarding respect towards women in recent years, how is Dillon and Auld ahead of Gale?
 
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Barrett on his podcast today again said that he feels like Gale is behind other candidates in the running for the AFL CEO role based on our clubs behavior in the hub during 2020.

I’ve said before and will say again, why isn’t the football media covering this story in more detail? Where are you Caro, Niall, Robinson, McClure and the other media sycophants? We have only had vague allusion to a “war” between club and HQ and throw-away comments buried paragraphs deep in articles on other topics. Did this falling out have anything to do with subsequent rule changes? The timeline seems to suggest so.

If our club and by extension the CEO behaved so appalling in the hub that it has effectively ruled Gale out of becoming AFL CEO I would sure well like to know a bit more about it.
Unless there is some major issues that we don't know about, and haven't heard even the barest whiff of on the footy rumour mill, we are being shafted. Why were our supposed covid bad behaviour so much worse than other clubs that prima facie were as bad or worse? Why does the league hold a bigger grudge for longer against us?

(rhetorical questions BTW)
 
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