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Hardwick

RoarEmotion

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This was clearly evident on the night. It was like Melbourne had an extra 8 players on the ground. Everywhere the ball was in dispute they outnumbered us; all over the ground. That is work rate; Melbourne players worked, ours didn't. It was a very un Richmond like performance.

Dimma was not happy at the presser. He was still measured but you could tell he was not happy. I reckon that lack of work rate had a lot do with his unhappiness.
Look at the rotations. We were hamstrung and effectively playing 1-2 men down. Hence lack of run vs lack of work rate. Was 49 of 75 vs 74 of 75. That is huge.
 
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Ridley

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Look at the rotations. We were hamstrung and effectively playing 1-2 men down. Hence lack of run vs lack of work rate. Was 49 of 75 vs 74 of 75. That is huge.
That's a reasonable point. Although I feel it was evident from 2/3 way through first quarter before Dusty and Lambert went off. Particularly in our forward line. George, Rioli and Aarts were MIA when the ball hit the deck.
 
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fastin bulbous

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We need more footballers who can hit a target. Too many with ropey disposal. The effort is there, the much required precision is not.

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I recon that’s what you get after years of picks outside the sweet spot in the draft. Melbourne have a gazilion 1st round picks and they all decided to play with heart on the weekend. Sometimes the shortcomings of our players are really apparent. Particularly when our stars are off or out.

I still think the game was largely lost at the selection table. After the 1st quarter our structure became exposed. But we also played poorly. Particularly our small ‘forwards’ and mids.
 
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22nd Man

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I think what you’re suggesting adds complexity to a high pressure snap decision.

Gotta keep it simple or it won’t happen at all IMO.

On a fast breakaway, if you see a free teammate in a better position - pass it 100% of the time. Team rule, don’t waste 1 second thinking about it. Just pull the trigger.

If players are encouraged to take the shot themselves after weighing up how much pressure themselves and their teammate is under, I’d expect the end result to be what happens at every other club: players will blaze away themselves because it’s the easier, faster decision to make under pressure. So my heavy support of sharing the ball assumes it’s kind of an all-or-nothing thing.

When we get a fast mark inside 50, you‘ll notice teammates put their arms up to stop him from sharing the ball. That’s an example of teammates making the decision for them. Simplifies and speeds up the decision, where the default is to share. It’s a great system, but probably only works if it’s automatic.
Simplicity yes, simple no.
These blokes are meant to be elite and that includes making decisions .... In fact in my experience I would say that any level of sport the best decision makers stand out. They all can kick mark handball run tackle etc (at training) ... game day taking the best option more often leads to success.
 

year of the tiger

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Big decisions for Hardwick over the next 2 weeks but particularly this week.

Bring in some kids but how many - Hardwick is not frightened to do this as he has done it in the past but he is also loyal to those who have had success already.

I think this week is time - lets see what CCJ, RCD and MRJ have against an inform and skilled team.
 
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Tigers2011

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Coach needs to earn his money this week including training leading up to the game. Clearly forward structure & delivery inside 50 isn’t working so what can the coaches do to fix it?
 
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zippadeee

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I was told that Hardwick won't and dosent like making big changes, unless he is forced.
He won't make more then one change for every line on the ground.
Forward, Centre, back etc
It would be nice to see another tall.
Even Chol. Footscary are midget's.
 
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123cups

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Simplicity yes, simple no.
These blokes are meant to be elite and that includes making decisions .... In fact in my experience I would say that any level of sport the best decision makers stand out. They all can kick mark handball run tackle etc (at training) ... game day taking the best option more often leads to success.

Agree with that, the more elite they are at something, the better it will stand up under pressure. On the flip side, this also means role players like George for example (without elite decision making) will stand up better under pressure when there's simpler decisions to make. They make up most of the list.

Due to equalisation measures, nobody can sustain an advantage because of superior decision makers. So, the less our game plan depends on superior decision making, the better. That's why I prefer someone like George sharing it around without thinking.

Lynch's burn was a worse offence given he's an elite player, but neither should've happened. Those 2 missed goals would've brought teammates into the game, had them feeling good about themselves and each other, and made the Demons feel more uncertain with each F50 entry.

Taking the shot yourself is a worse decision on average that is the norm at all other clubs IMO. The coaching group can make it a feature of the team's game again fairly quickly, and I hope they do. I come from a science background though, I'm not speaking from experience, so I'm just theorising out loud and could be wrong...
 
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tha8ball

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Got to give it to this man. Just when you think the ship might be rocking - he delivers. Loved the move of Baker mid/fwd, Pickett in the guts and Ross onto the wing. Thought it was game changing. Even putting RCD on Bont. Could’ve easily hid him away but he didn’t. Great learning experience for the kid as that’s the prototype of what he could well become.
 
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tigersnake

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Loved how he threw down the Gauntlett to footscray during the week. Reminiscent of the great old school coaches.
 
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CarnTheTiges

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Made me look stupid. I thought he was out of answers and then he pulls that out. Must be in the conversation with the modern day greats.
 
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BrummieTiger

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Made me look stupid. I thought he was out of answers and then he pulls that out. Must be in the conversation with the modern day greats.
What do you mean 'must be in the conversation?' He's won 3 of the last 4 premierships - he literally IS the modern day great. Other coaches get compared to Dimma, not the other way around, with the possible exception of Clarkson.
 

CarnTheTiges

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What do you mean 'must be in the conversation?' He's won 3 of the last 4 premierships - he literally IS the modern day great. Other coaches get compared to Dimma, not the other way around, with the possible exception of Clarkson.
That was the other one I thought of, but I’d put Matthews in there as well.
 

BrummieTiger

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That was the other one I thought of, but I’d put Matthews in there as well.
Mathews definitely a great. I was thinking more among active or recently active coaches. I'm in awe of what Hardwick's achieved - nobody outside the club and its supporters really acknowledge where he started with Richmond, but from day 1 he had a plan to turn it around. He has set a standard for other coaches to try to emulate.
 

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We were all clamouring for a third marking forward. Dimma says ‘nup, Bakes will make the difference’.

What a team. What a coach he has become.
 
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Tenacious

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Liked his description of his team talk at half time (or was it 3/4 time not sure now) and he said he got all mixed up and lost his lines.
So he just acknowledged it to the boys and said something like "I've got no idea what I'm talking about now - so just out there and do your job"
 
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TigerMasochist

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Always the eternal question. Was the chicken first or was it the egg?

Coaching equivalent. Does the coach make the players or the players make the coach?

No Dusty, Prestia, Flossy or Lamblett playing against the undefeated Woofers while the form line has been patchy at best.

Two miserable goals in a half of footy with the Woofers looking every chance to blow the game to the shizen.

Rest, reset n kick the SYSTEM into overdrive, OMFG awesomeness awakens. Gotta give mega kudos to the Coach. Stars are out n plugging holes with kids. Many experts n commentators barely acknowledge the quality of our players year in, year out. Yet we keep banging heads n taking home the prizes, because of our system. Coach is to blame for our system. In Dimma we trust.
 
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tigerman

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Injuries sure do create opportunities. RCD debuts, Ross plays a whole game Mansell has played a few games now which he wouldn't have if Vlastuin was fit.
Positional changes occur because of injuries too, Pickett finally goes into the midfield. I liked how Dimma said last night that we learnt a few things about ourselves tonight.
I reckon those learnings our gunna make us better too.
 
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