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Ivan Soldo

antman

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Has Ivan and Richmond launched legal proceedings against Tomohawk yet? A shock if not.
 

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Champion bloke, premiership player and much respected team mate.
Hope his recovery is speedy and successful. No doubt the way he goes about recovery/rehab over the long journey he now faces will be inspiring to those around him.
 
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Dont Argue

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Champion bloke, premiership player and much respected team mate.
Hope his recovery is speedy and successful. No doubt the way he goes about recovery/rehab over the long journey he now faces will be inspiring to those around him.

I miss the big lug already. I’m a big fan.
Became a favourite very quickly due to his determination and honest efforts. Gives everything.
Wasn’t long ago many jeered and smirked.
Now admired and respected within a relatively short space of time. Not unexpected though. His cousin helped create the Richmond man. It’s in his blood
 
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Bullarto Tiger

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I miss the big lug already. I’m a big fan.
Became a favourite very quickly due to his determination and honest efforts. Gives everything.
Wasn’t long ago many jeered and smirked.
Now admired and respected within a relatively short space of time. Not unexpected though. His cousin helped create the Richmond man. It’s in his blood

Great comments, DA
 
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tigerman

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I can't stand Hawkins, he spits the dummy when they are losing and when he is getting beaten.
He kneed Vlastuin in the back a few years ago, and I can't remember who it was, but he tried to do the same thing to another Richmond player. Vlastuin was lucky he didn't get badly hurt, can lose a kidney from a dog act like that.

Hawkins must've been put on notice about shoving players in the back, he has reverted back to kneeing players.

 

Ridley

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Hawkins must've been put on notice about shoving players in the back, he has reverted back to kneeing players.

Yep Hawkins is a dead set *smile* and a cheat. Much like many of his Geelong team mates. I guess when you're coached by Chris Scott for 10 years the stench will attach itself eventually. The fawning by the media of this club is sickening.
 
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Ridley

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Hawkins must've been put on notice about shoving players in the back, he has reverted back to kneeing players.

That article; wow :rolleyes: .

No mention of the free he received in the 3rd quarter when he dived forward and got a garbage push in the back decision which gifted him a goal. No mention of the vision where he forcefullly pushed a Swans defender straight into a pack of players.

Nah it's all poor Tomahawk and poor Geelong. So badly done by :vomit
 
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tigerman

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That article; wow :rolleyes: .

No mention of the free he received in the 3rd quarter when he dived forward and got an garbage push in the back decision which gifted him a goal. No mention of the vision where he forcefullly pushed a Swans defender straight into a pack of players.

Nah it's all poor Tomahawk and poor Geelong. So badly done by :vomit
With the social media attention about Hawkins from the Richmond and Swan games, I really hope that the umpires are now more aware of what Hawkins has been getting away with.
 
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We'll definitely miss him if we come up against Natanui or Grundy in particular.

Not sure about Grundy. He looks to be breaking down and is just being held together enough to take to the field. A bit of dedicated Nank attention at the start of the much should curtail Grundy's around the ground presence
 

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We'll definitely miss him if we come up against Natanui or Grundy in particular.
That's my concern. It's a whole different ball-game if Nank has to take on these teams with 2 big, strong rucks alone (Chol doesn't look like much hope, probably won't even get selected which means Balta and/or Lynch to give a chop-out). However, there's a fair chance we may not play Skunks or Weagles again.
If we can beat Brisvegas?? But that's exactly where the problem starts. Lions already had McInerney but now Stef Martin back. It's exactly like our combo; the huge big, awkward guy and the smaller, fiercely competitive smaller, follow-up type.

So now it's like we are racing a V8 cylinder opponent with a 5/6 cylinder saloon.
 
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leon

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Has Ivan and Richmond launched legal proceedings against Tomohawk yet? A shock if not.
So you think this sarcasm is funny? Try reading this thread fully and SM. Many passionate AFL and Tiger fans outraged by what Hawkins gets away with. And he has just done the same against a young Swan opponent. Not penalised ... again. As others have also said, if Umps awarded frees against, his cowardly shoving would have been stamped out.

My call for legal action is not unprecedented actually, if unlikely, mainly because nowadays players have their medical costs and fees all covered while still drawing their full salary I suppose.

Otherwise legal action would be inevitable. It's disgusting that pig Hawkins keeps getting away with such dangerous interference. In that same game, Grimes, Riewoldt and Ratugolea flew for and took brilliant high marks without pushing opponents in the back prior.

Maybe my response stems from fury and frustration. But at least I show some empathy.
I don't think your patronising attitude is going to do much for the ensuing lost year Ivan now has to endure. His loss may be a serious impediment to our '20 flag hopes as I have already posted elsewhere.
 

antman

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Not sure about Grundy. He looks to be breaking down and is just being held together enough to take to the field. A bit of dedicated Nank attention at the start of the much should curtail Grundy's around the ground presence

Nakkers did the business on his own against the world (with a little help from Griggs) in 2017 so he can compete with Grundy, if we come up against them. Soldo a big loss no doubt, and would have been nice for him to part of our next flag if we are so lucky as to do it again this year. He's been an absolute warrior, banged up and doing the job on his own especially when Nakkers was out. But our contested ball brigade is stepping up now with Shedda, Cotch, Bolts, Graham in fine form so we can win ball even if we lose the hit out.

And if we don't we pressure so the turn it over in the next phase anyway.
 

leon

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Nakkers did the business on his own against the world (with a little help from Griggs) in 2017 so he can compete with Grundy, if we come up against them. Soldo a big loss no doubt, and would have been nice for him to part of our next flag if we are so lucky as to do it again this year. He's been an absolute warrior, banged up and doing the job on his own especially when Nakkers was out. But our contested ball brigade is stepping up now with Shedda, Cotch, Bolts, Graham in fine form so we can win ball even if we lose the hit out.

And if we don't we pressure so the turn it over in the next phase anyway.
As I have said prior, you mustn't have noticed, not sure why the concern with Grundy? So you think they will come through WCE in Perth? Or then beat Cats or PA (away) too, who they just failed to beat in QLD? Very unlikely to see the Skunks again I hope (no fear just want McChin's team to fail again).

Try getting over Lions first. McInerney actually beat even Soldo despite our victory in prior match. He will probably dominate Nank at about 6cm taller and couple of kgs heavier. Shouldn't be under-rated any more for close watchers. Then add Martin in who is a very similar CB beast like Nank but probably a slightly better athlete and (arguably) player.
Who is going to measure up as relief ruck? Probably will have to take Balta out of our backline for periods.

Sure our contested ball brigade is stepping up now but lions is comparable to at laest very competitive. Don't bet on them kicking 8.17 or whatever they did in the previous final we defeated them. Teams' accuracy really fluctuates due to pressures etc.
The key thing is not even CCs so much, although these are crucial at the Gabba as with the higher, more reliable bounce, shorter oval, good mids can driive it in deep quickly and easily or even score, but stoppages where a quality tap-out to the opposition can either create goals or prevent them. Lions will have clear advantage herein with no Soldo.

Will expand more on why they are an improved and somewhat different team to last time we played them closer to the match. First it's a wait and see re Andrews and Lynch availability being definite. Won't take a win for granted, especially with no Ivan.
 

antman

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We can take no win for granted, sure.

Stef Martin was a good player, how many games has he had since coming back? He'll be a bit underdone still, but you could say the same about Nank. Nank a bit ahead of him in terms of recovery. Big risk is if Nank goes down injured for some reason.

I still see rucking battles as not so important, particularly in finals. You win the game with winning contests round the ground, efficiency and so on. Turnovers are our key winning stat.
 

daniel30

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Nank has had the wood over Martin in the past his not the worry.McInerney may be.
 
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