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Justice?
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http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/law-order/police-allege-masa-vukotics-accused-killer-sean-christian-price-went-on-orgy-of-violence-before-surrender/story-fni0fee2-1227271332272?sv=19cd7b2abf1a89d6eb84d5b52580aa8
Another big congratulations to all those who oppose the death penalty. We now have yet another violent criminal who should have been put down but instead, he is still alive whilst another innocent person is now dead. You have effectively imposed the death penalty on an innocent person, exactly the reason why some of you don't want the death penalty, in case we execute an innocent person. Well, that has worked really well. Give yourselves a pat on the back.
If this continues, there will eventually be more violent criminals in this state running around than innocent people.
On top of this, the media won't report all of the facts, I suppose because his lawyer has argued that he won't receive a fair trial. Now, tell me why, in trials, the accused criminal past can't be brought up because he/she has supposedly paid for those crimes but it's quite alright to bring up the past of the victim in efforts to discredit them?
I've had enough, this bloke should be shot in every non fatal part of the body to keep him alive for as long as possible before being shot in the head. Make an example of him. Brutal? Maybe that might be a deterrent. A bit of pain before you're finally allowed to die. I'll do it, and gladly give him the finger before pulling the trigger for the final time.
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Another big congratulations to all those who oppose the death penalty. We now have yet another violent criminal who should have been put down but instead, he is still alive whilst another innocent person is now dead. You have effectively imposed the death penalty on an innocent person, exactly the reason why some of you don't want the death penalty, in case we execute an innocent person. Well, that has worked really well. Give yourselves a pat on the back.
If this continues, there will eventually be more violent criminals in this state running around than innocent people.
On top of this, the media won't report all of the facts, I suppose because his lawyer has argued that he won't receive a fair trial. Now, tell me why, in trials, the accused criminal past can't be brought up because he/she has supposedly paid for those crimes but it's quite alright to bring up the past of the victim in efforts to discredit them?
I've had enough, this bloke should be shot in every non fatal part of the body to keep him alive for as long as possible before being shot in the head. Make an example of him. Brutal? Maybe that might be a deterrent. A bit of pain before you're finally allowed to die. I'll do it, and gladly give him the finger before pulling the trigger for the final time.
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1eyedtiger said:http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/law-order/police-allege-masa-vukotics-accused-killer-sean-christian-price-went-on-orgy-of-violence-before-surrender/story-fni0fee2-1227271332272?sv=19cd7b2abf1a89d6eb84d5b52580aa8
Another big congratulations to all those who oppose the death penalty. We now have yet another violent criminal who should have been put down but instead, he is still alive whilst another innocent person is now dead. You have effectively imposed the death penalty on an innocent person, exactly the reason why some of you don't want the death penalty, in case we execute an innocent person. Well, that has worked really well. Give yourselves a pat on the back.
If this continues, there will eventually be more violent criminals in this state running around than innocent people.
On top of this, the media won't report all of the facts, I suppose because his lawyer has argued that he won't receive a fair trial. Now, tell me why, in trials, the accused criminal past can't be brought up because he/she has supposedly paid for those crimes but it's quite alright to bring up the past of the victim in efforts to discredit them?
I've had enough, this bloke should be shot in every non fatal part of the body to keep him alive for as long as possible before being shot in the head. Make an example of him. Brutal? Maybe that might be a deterrent. A bit of pain before you're finally allowed to die. I'll do it, and gladly give him the finger before pulling the trigger for the final time.
I personally don't oppose the death penalty in the right circumstances however after reading that article there is nothing there to indicate he has a previous history of violent crimes that would suffice in his execution.
1eyedtiger said:http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/law-order/police-allege-masa-vukotics-accused-killer-sean-christian-price-went-on-orgy-of-violence-before-surrender/story-fni0fee2-1227271332272?sv=19cd7b2abf1a89d6eb84d5b52580aa8
Another big congratulations to all those who oppose the death penalty. We now have yet another violent criminal who should have been put down but instead, he is still alive whilst another innocent person is now dead. You have effectively imposed the death penalty on an innocent person, exactly the reason why some of you don't want the death penalty, in case we execute an innocent person. Well, that has worked really well. Give yourselves a pat on the back.
If this continues, there will eventually be more violent criminals in this state running around than innocent people.
On top of this, the media won't report all of the facts, I suppose because his lawyer has argued that he won't receive a fair trial. Now, tell me why, in trials, the accused criminal past can't be brought up because he/she has supposedly paid for those crimes but it's quite alright to bring up the past of the victim in efforts to discredit them?
I've had enough, this bloke should be shot in every non fatal part of the body to keep him alive for as long as possible before being shot in the head. Make an example of him. Brutal? Maybe that might be a deterrent. A bit of pain before you're finally allowed to die. I'll do it, and gladly give him the finger before pulling the trigger for the final time.
So what crime should he have been executed for before he murdered Masa?
Or do you have some sort of Minority Report technology that can predict murders in advance?
antman said:
How am I supposed to know? The general public is not allowed to know these things. But if you believe the media headlines about how shocked we're all going to be when it is finally revealed, then this bloke has quite a history.
I understand that he has been in and out of psychiatric care and is schizophrenic. Are you suggesting that we execute all schizophrenics in our society ?1eyedtiger said:http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/law-order/police-allege-masa-vukotics-accused-killer-sean-christian-price-went-on-orgy-of-violence-before-surrender/story-fni0fee2-1227271332272?sv=19cd7b2abf1a89d6eb84d5b52580aa8
Another big congratulations to all those who oppose the death penalty. We now have yet another violent criminal who should have been put down but instead, he is still alive whilst another innocent person is now dead. You have effectively imposed the death penalty on an innocent person, exactly the reason why some of you don't want the death penalty, in case we execute an innocent person. Well, that has worked really well. Give yourselves a pat on the back.
If this continues, there will eventually be more violent criminals in this state running around than innocent people.
On top of this, the media won't report all of the facts, I suppose because his lawyer has argued that he won't receive a fair trial. Now, tell me why, in trials, the accused criminal past can't be brought up because he/she has supposedly paid for those crimes but it's quite alright to bring up the past of the victim in efforts to discredit them?
I've had enough, this bloke should be shot in every non fatal part of the body to keep him alive for as long as possible before being shot in the head. Make an example of him. Brutal? Maybe that might be a deterrent. A bit of pain before you're finally allowed to die. I'll do it, and gladly give him the finger before pulling the trigger for the final time.
I am on no way condoning what he did but there are many mentally ill patients walking around in this country some who are not receiving the care and help they need. Perhaps using your line of thought those also responsible are Governments who continually cut mental health funding.
If you think the death penalty is a deterrent to a schizophrenic with tendencies towards violence you are kidding yourself.
Fine. Forget it.
I'd bet my last dollar that most criminals could prove they have something or another wrong with them and shouldn't be held accountable for their actions.
I don't think many of you get it. The punishment given out for committing crimes is exactly that, punishment. It's NOT a deterrent so stop trying to push that stupid line.
While we're at it, jails don't exactly act as a deterrent either and it's wrong to deny someone their freedom. Two wrongs don't make a right. In fact, there are many known cases of criminals who have been released just to re-offend to get back into jail simply because they can't survive on the outside as they have effectively been institutionalized. Abolishing the entire penal system could actually reduce crime!
To hell with it, just abolish the police force while we're at it. And the army. Having the army do anything involving killing would be state sanctioned murder. We can't have that now. That's bad.
If you all want to be soft on criminals and tippy toe around them, then don't complain when it all goes pear shaped.
Justice my butt. Instead of jailing this bloke, maybe they could give him home detention, at your place. After all, according to your logic, there's no proof he'd ever commit another crime again so it should be all good.
I'd bet my last dollar that most criminals could prove they have something or another wrong with them and shouldn't be held accountable for their actions.
I don't think many of you get it. The punishment given out for committing crimes is exactly that, punishment. It's NOT a deterrent so stop trying to push that stupid line.
While we're at it, jails don't exactly act as a deterrent either and it's wrong to deny someone their freedom. Two wrongs don't make a right. In fact, there are many known cases of criminals who have been released just to re-offend to get back into jail simply because they can't survive on the outside as they have effectively been institutionalized. Abolishing the entire penal system could actually reduce crime!
To hell with it, just abolish the police force while we're at it. And the army. Having the army do anything involving killing would be state sanctioned murder. We can't have that now. That's bad.
If you all want to be soft on criminals and tippy toe around them, then don't complain when it all goes pear shaped.
Justice my butt. Instead of jailing this bloke, maybe they could give him home detention, at your place. After all, according to your logic, there's no proof he'd ever commit another crime again so it should be all good.
IanG said:
No it wouldn't.
Anyway, the guy is mad rather than bad. Go watch his YouTube videos. Bonkers. In and out of Thomas Embling and pretty hard to believe he was on the streets in the first place.
Tragic story all around.
Sintiger said:
Spot on Sin. Speaking to a mate of mine yesterday who works in the mental health field. He Commented that this guy should have been in the system and in full care years ago. Only problem is that the system does not exist anymore because of the significant cuts.
yes. It's not just cuts it's also that more and more of our mental health budgets are going to treating psychotic patients with drug issuesWesternTiger said:
