Still think teams remember players who have played well against them. Two of Newnes best 4 games ever statistically were against Blues:
Its a "claytons' im walking away.SOS is out I hear, but unconfirmed source as yet.
Yes, there is still that list gap that bit St.Kilda after Lyon departed - a handful of dependable veterans, some new draft picks and very few core players 25-28yo. St.Kilda tried to short-cut by recruiting mature-age players and failed, as did Carlton. Their strategy is absolutely dependent on bringing in top quality free agents of Coniglio's ilk if they're going to be successful in the next four years or so. Otherwise as you say, they'll reach mid-table and tread water or go backwards as the veterans depart.Right on. Carlton will be relying on youngsters to pick up their game over the next couple of years. The problem is their current stars are over the hill and won't be there to participate. Unlike the Tigers, who have been able to time the growth of the youngsters in with the peak of the experienced players, Carlton won't have that luxury.
Simpson 35, Betts 32, Murphy 32, Kruezer 30, Ed Curnow 30, Casboult 30
Carlton will surely get to a middle of the road team. Will they be able to take the next step to a premiership window? Hard to see it at this stage.
I think what you are accurately describing there is GWS's list management was pretty smart.Already way ahead were GWS with the concessions but it was amplified by the fact that GC went the way that the AFL expected them to go and that was to trade in some of their high draft picks for mature players from other clubs which they duly did. They had NO 1st round national draft picks in year 2. GWS on the other hand knew that they were going to be a basket case for the first few years and kept their picks and kept trading for even more national draft picks early on knowing they wouldn't keep them all later on and traded players later on when they knew they would be more competitive. I firmly believe the wily Sheedy had something to do with this plan of attack.
That's a fair call but the list manager doesn't get to select the 22 either.List age is almost worthless, bloated as it is by rookies and late picks who will never make the grade. I only look at the age of the senior 22.
Well if Silvagni or anyone else at Carlton had said they should be playing more kids early in Bolton's tenure I would've agreed. They were the 6th-oldest team in Malthouse's last year and still 6th-oldest in Bolton's first. It was farcical.That's a fair call but the list manager doesn't get to select the 22 either.
No my original assertion was with the picks GWS had even granny Fay could have got the first couple of years of picks right. SOS was there for the easiest years. He proved nothing during his tenure there.I think what you are accurately describing there is GWS's list management was pretty smart
Would they have selected all 3 if SOS wasn't overseeing list management?List management and drafting aside, can’t have been easy for SOS to have two sons at the Blues and potentially another next year. Reckon that might have played a big part in this. No doubt he wants to give them some room to develop without his presence overshadowing in the background.
They're making comments like "our list is the envy of every other club" among conspiracy theories about the AFL stepping in on Coniglio and Martin to thwart Carlton and keep them down. Some of them are quite pathetic.The Blues fans I've spoken to recently think they're a red hot chance in round 1. We need to put this 'Blue resurgence' back in it's box.