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Minor premierships

zippadeee

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Do they still give out the McClelland Trophy?
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I'm of a pretty strong view that the AFL needs to place a much stronger focus on the minor premiers. It’s tough to win and even tougher to go on and win the flag, as history has shown this century. the reward and recognition needs to be significantly bigger. If the McClelland Trophy doesn't exist anymore, then it needs to be reinstated and celebrated is a much bigger way.

You only need to look around the world to see that most of the sporting world recognises the first past the post team as the champions of that competition, especially when it comes to the world game.
 
Actually - I counted 6 minor premiers going on to win the flag which is higher than I thought.

6 out of 21 is 29% which is about right for the top 4 who all get a double chance.

Going on that table reckon the minor premier is well overdue to win the flag - maybe the tigers could be that team.
 
Clearly only one way to fix this. Cos we have to fix every single thing that does not compute. Right? Minor premiers get a big big chocolate cake! No no hang on.... ummm. No, it's... get rid of finals! Yes that's it I'd almost forgotten. Wait wait.... has this idea been on SEN or 360 yet? Just hold fire for a sec then....
 
As far as I know they still give out the McClelland Trophy. It is worth remembering though that this trophy has only been given to the minor premiers for maybe a couple of decades. I remember it used to go to the team which performed best over the seniors, reserves and under 19s.

DS
 
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Our season doesn't finish until the Premiership game, the last one of the year. We know this, its Aussie as.
AFL supporters on the whole dont give 2 hoots about the title of finishing first at the end of the home and away. I cannot even recall a conversation over my years with anyone who does care about it. Ever.
 
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I'm of a pretty strong view that the AFL needs to place a much stronger focus on the minor premiers. It’s tough to win and even tougher to go on and win the flag, as history has shown this century. the reward and recognition needs to be significantly bigger. If the McClelland Trophy doesn't exist anymore, then it needs to be reinstated and celebrated is a much bigger way.

You only need to look around the world to see that most of the sporting world recognises the first past the post team as the champions of that competition, especially when it comes to the world game.

Can only work if you play every other team an equal amount of times.
 
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Actually - I counted 6 minor premiers going on to win the flag which is higher than I thought.

6 out of 21 is 29% which is about right for the top 4 who all get a double chance.

Going on that table reckon the minor premier is well overdue to win the flag - maybe the tigers could be that team.
Albeit a smaller sample, another interesting statistic could be a comparison of 2000-14 and 2015-20. In the first 16 years there were just 3 premiers (19%) who had to play 3 finals leading up to the grand final. In the six years since the post-round 23 bye was introduced there were another 3 (50%).
 
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Not the slightest bit interested in MP’s or McL Trophies - unless they are an afterthought to a premiership
Neither is any consolation to a losing finals series
 
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If this was the premier league
We would have only 1 title since 1982.
I like the way it is
 
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As far as I know they still give out the McClelland Trophy. It is worth remembering though that this trophy has only been given to the minor premiers for maybe a couple of decades. I remember it used to go to the team which performed best over the seniors, reserves and under 19s.

DS
Wasn’t that because Sheeds had a big whinge about it?
 
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Keep them coming!
 
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