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Paddy Dangerdive
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IMO, and it has been for a while, as well as being mentioned in the 3AW commentary, he tries to hard!!!! If you Watch the Pies game, he was on song, partly due........well totally due, to the Pies being witches hats. Watch the Brisvagas game, and he is clutching at everything trying to recapture the previous weeks form. It's just my take, but I bloody loved that he was the one Dusty smoked to kick his last...............anytime anyone wants to do a Danger/Dusty comparison...................que the tape!!!!!!
Sorry boys, you are both wrong. Happens after Prestia's goal at 15:04 remaining in Q4
Clear pull of the jumper, visible to the ump, impedes Dangers passage to the action. Clear free kick. No doubt players get away with this all the time, but if umps see the jumper stretch out they'll pay it.
still I do not consider him a great player. To be great, you are entitled to have a bad game in a final, but he has over 5 games, with 3 against the Tigers. No great player fails three times.
I still think the best one was in last year's Preliminary Final, he was on the ground with a few other players and ripped the ball out while standing up and then fired a pass off to a team-mate. Unbelievable.
Antman, yes, maybe a bit of jumper there, but Danger is also grabbing the Richmond player and if they paid all of these then maybe, just maybe, they could take the asterisk away from the Holding the Man rule which they pay about 10% of the time. Look at how careful the players are in old games when they actually paid this. Pay it always or remove it from the rule book, this inconsistency kills the game.
DS
Sorry DS but no, he's not grabbing the Richmond player. And there is no maybe a bit of jumper about it. Go and watch the video again from the bounce at 15:07. I'll say it again, any time an ump sees a jumper stretch out, you are gone.
Bet Leigh Matthews would be insulted being compared to the showpony.
Surely you jest, any time they see some jumper they pay a free.
Maybe I should search for game pics, I'm sure there are plenty.
DS
Great discussion, guys. I find myself agreeing with many of the points made regarding both Mr Finals and Mr Not Quite There.
In my experience, Dusty is a very instinctive player and he has always been thus. He is much more ”see ball, get ball” than the majority of footballers at this level. In the age of structures, starting positions, systems and game plans, he is different. His mind is always clear, he doesn’t overthink, his body works on muscle memory. He knows where the goals are, he repeats plays that work over and over. How many goals has he kicked when tucked deep in the pocket where he kicked his stunning goal at the death on Saturday? He kicked the same goal in last year’s Grand Final when Rioli gave him a little hand pass. How many has he kicked from the opposite pocket? How often does he run to dead in front and dribbles a kick across his body? It is all instinct. Richo says it is also hard work and repetition and that resonates too. Either way, clear mind, always. There is nothing instinctive about the way Dangerfield plays.
The second thing that sets him apart is the fend off. He uses it to create space for himself. It is not an “either/or” move. He is not trying to set his opponent on his bum. That is just a bonus. He pushes his opponent in one direction and immediately moves in another. Watch him closely, his left arm pushes his opponent further to the left and his legs propel him to the right immediately after contact. Or vice versa. A would-be tackler is in his grill, about to grab him, then they are a metre apart, one going left, the other going right. How did that happen? He takes space. Dangerfield tries to out run, out jump and break tackles. Dusty does not care for these things, he just takes space. Space is like gold in this game.
Thirdly, as pointed out by just about every one, Dusty stays on his feet, Dangerfield doesn’t. GAJ stayed on his feet, Leigh Matthews too, Hird, Judd, Ricciuto, Carey, Buckley, all the same. You rarely saw any of them on the ground.
In my experience, Dusty is a very instinctive player and he has always been thus. He is much more ”see ball, get ball” than the majority of footballers at this level. In the age of structures, starting positions, systems and game plans, he is different. His mind is always clear, he doesn’t overthink, his body works on muscle memory. He knows where the goals are, he repeats plays that work over and over. How many goals has he kicked when tucked deep in the pocket where he kicked his stunning goal at the death on Saturday? He kicked the same goal in last year’s Grand Final when Rioli gave him a little hand pass. How many has he kicked from the opposite pocket? How often does he run to dead in front and dribbles a kick across his body? It is all instinct. Richo says it is also hard work and repetition and that resonates too. Either way, clear mind, always. There is nothing instinctive about the way Dangerfield plays.
The second thing that sets him apart is the fend off. He uses it to create space for himself. It is not an “either/or” move. He is not trying to set his opponent on his bum. That is just a bonus. He pushes his opponent in one direction and immediately moves in another. Watch him closely, his left arm pushes his opponent further to the left and his legs propel him to the right immediately after contact. Or vice versa. A would-be tackler is in his grill, about to grab him, then they are a metre apart, one going left, the other going right. How did that happen? He takes space. Dangerfield tries to out run, out jump and break tackles. Dusty does not care for these things, he just takes space. Space is like gold in this game.
Thirdly, as pointed out by just about every one, Dusty stays on his feet, Dangerfield doesn’t. GAJ stayed on his feet, Leigh Matthews too, Hird, Judd, Ricciuto, Carey, Buckley, all the same. You rarely saw any of them on the ground.
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Yeah, I dunno, I’m very impartial but all I see is Blicavs getting Nank over the shoulder.Sorry boys, you are both wrong. Happens after Prestia's goal at 15:04 remaining in Q4
Clear pull of the jumper, visible to the ump, impedes Dangers passage to the action. Clear free kick. No doubt players get away with this all the time, but if umps see the jumper stretch out they'll pay it.
Point is, jumper pulled, ump saw it, free kick, contrary to what Zips et al said - that he wasn't being held. He was.
If you want another discussion about the merit of these as free kicks, what umps see or don't see, etc etc, be my guest. Was just making it clear why DF got the free in that instance.
Sorry boys, you are both wrong. Happens after Prestia's goal at 15:04 remaining in Q4
Clear pull of the jumper, visible to the ump, impedes Dangers passage to the action. Clear free kick. No doubt players get away with this all the time, but if umps see the jumper stretch out they'll pay it.
Whoops!
You‘re right. I watched the vision on TV but didn’t notice the jumper pull.
Good pickup Ant
Never liked Danger too much all about him. Probably scrapes into a top 5 in the league player but certainly not a real team player. I will never forget last year's Brownlow count him and Kelly both had that whiff of pissed off when each other were getting the votes. Hes got the tiger monkey on his back failed dismally in 3 finals against us which will dint his legacy for sure. MR ME ME ME!
