It's called tough love, and can be the right option for the right person.
You may have also missed the word "encouragement" in your haste to reply.
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Pick 63, 2017 Ben Miller - Welcome to Tigerland.
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It's called tough love, and can be the right option for the right person.
You may have also missed the word "encouragement" in your haste to reply.
That's the key, isn't it, B17? 5 disposals is delist. 10 is persevere. Miller has to get 10 touches to keep his place in the seniors.
Over the past few games Miller has levelled up at VFA and senior level IMO. His endeavour is up 100%, albeit from a low base. And he was promoted on the back of huge clutch game including kicking the winning goal in the magoos last round.
He had to be promoted on that.
As spook points out his aerial game still lacks energy. He won't go near it. But. His ground endeavour is through the roof to acceptable levels from a paltry base.
Anybody who's been through the Shrinking Violet years (is it a decade yet? Feels that way.) with Minson wants tough love. We can't take it any more.
That's why the VFA full forward test proposed by B17 has such appeal. Get 10 touches, [take 10 marks,] kick 5 goals in the magoos, Minson, ya big *smile* head!
He had to be promoted on that.
As spook points out his aerial game still lacks energy. He won't go near it. But. His ground endeavour is through the roof to acceptable levels from a paltry base.
Anybody who's been through the Shrinking Violet years (is it a decade yet? Feels that way.) with Minson wants tough love. We can't take it any more.
That's why the VFA full forward test proposed by B17 has such appeal. Get 10 touches, [take 10 marks,] kick 5 goals in the magoos, Minson, ya big *smile* head!
It was tongue in cheek K3. B17 is my favourite poster in PRE. It's amazing how he's come on since he stopped having to defend the flying pencil.
I'm over 50 so old skool is how I grew up. It's a different world now. My son and his mates "talk" about issues and problems - WTF? You were taught to either punch your way out of a problem or stfu in my day.
He has played enough two’s. From that it is a long way from clear that the threat of downfall will work.
Get the feeling that Mini may be the master of encouragement, which mental state is imo more likely to occur and more likely to succeed, while Ben is playing one’s.
My bad, MD. I mean 10 touches in the seniors to keep his place. In the Magoos, as Brodders says - 10 marks, 5 goals.
The number 1 key ingredient for any key tall is aggression.
He's going the way of Vickery, Griffins, Elton & many others before him.
It's a tough physically demanding role to play.
Every so oftern he does something where I think gee wiz he has talent but the guy just not believe in himself.
No swag, no desire & maybe soon no career.
His ground game is outstanding for his size. But that isn't good enough. At his size he needs to be commanding the ball and putting the frighteners on defenders. Keeping them honest. If they know the ball is going to ground, that's basically a win. Thing is, I've seen him lead at the ball with confidence and take it overhead, maybe in his 1st or 2nd senior game? I thought, "we've found something here. Might struggle to hold a spot with Lynch, Jack, Bolton etc. We'll see?" Not sure I've seen him do it since?
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being generous, i think part of Millers issue is that he knows he has to compete when the ball is in the air. so he tries to compete- he always grabs his opponent, which means he cant mark the ball cos he hands are busy. and it means he doesnt lead, cos he might lead to the wrong spot allowing his opponent to drop off and intercept.
that is being generous. he might also not do those things because he isnt a great footballer.
I reckon Ben did some good things during the game. Not as bad as most say.
he has half a season to prove he is worth keeping
his ground level energy is great and uses the ball well
the trick now will be to bring that to either ruck work or the ariel stuff
I’m not saying I’m Millers biggest critic, but I’m definitely on the podium.
That was his best game (probably at any level). Well done Ben, well done.
That was his best game (probably at any level). Well done Ben, well done.
Great game Ben. Shows what a bit of self confidence will do. Now let's see this consistently in the coming weeks
Showed he can play at the level, not that I've doubted his ability, as much as he does.
