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Re: Adam Goodes
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KnightersRevenge said:
If you improve(even try) the conditions for one indigenous person you are on the right track.
Judging another person for what they say or write as racist, especially if that person has helped an indigenous person is self righteous especially if you are not doing anything to change the conditions of indigenous people other than call others racist.
ninjahaha said:
Nope. You've got yourself all crossed up my dark and stealthy friend. If you do or say something racist your past actions (or future ones) are immaterial. You are still responsible for the thing you said or did. It's a bit like catholics going to confession then being horrible people all week, then back to confession. The one does not erase the other.
I sometimes visit a place where old aboriginal stone axe was left abandoned lifetimes ago. The stone is sharp as. It has a deep worn area from thumbs rubbing in it over the years. It's had a lot of use. I feel different when I go to that place or handle that stone. It's a very spiritual thing. To have that small link to our original country people is so special.
I wonder if Aboriginals now would prefer to still live that primitive lifestyle if they had the choice. Has the advent of white man improved their lives at all over the years. Are we headed in the right direction for their best interests. Is there any benefit to dwelling on the terrible past. It should never be forgotten and it should be acknowledged but it can't be changed. The future certainly can though. It seems sometimes all we hear are negatives. I sincerely hope there are far more positives even if they're not so popular as a topic of discussion.
I wonder if Aboriginals now would prefer to still live that primitive lifestyle if they had the choice. Has the advent of white man improved their lives at all over the years. Are we headed in the right direction for their best interests. Is there any benefit to dwelling on the terrible past. It should never be forgotten and it should be acknowledged but it can't be changed. The future certainly can though. It seems sometimes all we hear are negatives. I sincerely hope there are far more positives even if they're not so popular as a topic of discussion.
the debate is a little confusing. As we are all thinking and talking.KnightersRevenge said:
in a nutshell...
Our actions are what counts.
the way many indiginous people live due to racism is what needs to be addressed. To me many are mre concerned with judging pointing fingers. That does not make you part of the solution.
But we all should just move on apparently. Meanwhile what real change as happened.
jb03 said:
Hopefully, but I wouldn't be surprised of the odd larrikin or two in the stands. First one to boo will be shot at point blank. ;D
Yeah daily struggle for survival, hand to mouth existence and dead before 30, sounds awesome.K3 said:
Giardiasis said:
I listened to a podcast with a religious historian who wrote "The Gluten Lie" about the similarity between diet spruikers and shamans, Chinese traditional healers etc...he spoke about the error in thinking that leads to the idea of "paradise past". Many talk about Australia's Indigenous returning to a hunter gatherer existence as though this is an option. A choice. For most that link is gone. The culture was broken down their oral histories and attachment to country and family so they now live in kind of limbo between that simpler time, a world they can't go back to and a world they don't quite belong to, IMO.
ninjahaha said:
You blokes might be too young to remember, but I remember going to the footy in the early 80s - the racist nonsense that indigenous players (and umpire Glenn James) copped at that time was vitriolic. Of course, no-one tried to ban it then - it was just accepted as part of the footy. If it had been banned then people would have used the same tired old excuses - "they are just blowing off steam, it's my right to scream and shout at the football, I'm not really racist, honest".
It wasn't til Nicky Winmar made his stand against Collingwood that the broader football community started to change its view on these sorts of things.
If you are claiming that it was always just about football and you want to return to those times, you are dead wrong and have no understanding of even recent history.
