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Round 17: The Tuesday, race 3 at Warracknabeal games.
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Reckon N Daicos is the biggest factor in Collingwoods recent rise. Through the wonders of the f/s rule, Collingwood got a kid that started his career as a top 50 level player in the comp. Now in his second year he is easily top 5 level player in the comp maybe even the best.
Like us in 2016, Collingwoods 2021 looks like an exception. They were a top 8 calibre side that effectively added the best player in the comp to their list. You’d be hard pressed not to improve under those circumstances.
Nick's arrival seems to have also improved Josh's game too.
a premiership side generally has
- a meteoric star kid or two (Daicos/ JHF, Butters)
- 2 established stars (Degoey, Elliot/ Wines?, Rozee?)
- a champion or AA CHB and CHF (Moore/Allir?)
- big tough ruckmen ( - / lycett)
-half a dozen mid teir players have an AA squad year (McCreary, Murphy, J Daicos, Miocheck, crisp / SPP, Finlayson?
- a tough, selfless bottom 6 who will perform any role asked of them
- a gun recruits(bobby Hill/Willy Wioli)
pies and Port have unconventional forward lines - both lack a champion KPF. but pies have them covered Elliot is a star, Cox is a finals wildcard, ash Johnson a freakish fringe player, miuochech very reliable and tough, bobby hill dangerous as *smile*)
As good as N.Daicos is, Port have them covered by the pair of aces JHF/Butters
established stars - pies comfortably
ruckmen - port comfortably
mid tier - probably a draw
bottom 6 - probably a draw? neither carrying any uber bums? (Markov? Frampton?)
gun recruits - probably a draw?
neither side would have looked strong on paper last year, port still dont
its shaping up as an intriguing GF. If I go with my ruckmen win premierships, I think Port will be hard to beat
If I go with the champion freak dusty year, its a draw
if you go with whose bottom 6 have less bums, I think Port Win - Dixon is probably their biggest spud, and he will squash 3 blokes in a GF
degoey probably the difference I reckon.
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Adelaide can't be discounted either since they lost to the Pies twice this season by only 1 pt and 2 pts. Pies are very good but not unbeatable as we found out in 2018. Twelve weeks of footy to go and anything can happen with uncontrollables like illness, injuries and suspension.
He is a much better player than I thought he would be
There are a number of Collingwood players who are having their best seasons and some who are fringe who seem to be playing at a level I didn't think they had. I watched a bit of the game last night and you see Noble, Cameron, Markov, McCreery, Murphy, Lipinski, Johnson and Hill all play their roles and none of them were high draft picks or cost them much.
They have some stars but much like us in 2017-20 they are supplemented by players who fit into a team and were bargain basement. Think Short, Baker, Lambert, Grigg, Houli, Nankervis, Grimes, Broad etc
Perception. Just can't fathom how they never get tired or injured (hammies) for 4 quarters. We and other teams suffer these injuries through a season, but they all seem fine. They don't look like a natural team to me. All those close wins last year.....seriously! Melbourne copied us from 2021 and looked more natural to win the flag. Fly's got a degree in psychology and has somehow hypnotised them. Even Oleg looked like a bot in last few games compared to his disposals with us and Huns.
Strangely, most of the players didn't under Figgy. I suppose it shows how you build players mentally and physically with smarter coaches in Fly and Leppa. This is what angers me. We could've had a longer dynasty had they stayed after Dimma left. I was really hoping for Fly to be our next coach. Had he gone to any other club except Scumwood, I wouldn't mind what's happening now.
Agree on this.
You could watch the two vfl matches
At quarter time Suns are up 61-1 against Frankston and lions 54-0 against bullants. The vfl is a mess !
Yes, they have had me wondering for the last couple of seasons. Dank hasn't been spotted sneaking out of the Lexus Centre, has he? But more likely using some more advanced 'psychology.'
This might sounds really stupid mainly because we ain’t even in the 8, but I firmly believe we are the only team with the way we play can counter act Collingwood. Yes we have to be at our absolute best, but if we can snare a game in the finals against them, I think we can knock them off.
wouldn't it be sweet to flip the 2018 script on the pies....
