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Sydney Stack
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Not much remained in my head from my days at uni, but I do remember some lecture about motivation. Was either in Organisational Management (or Interpretive Dance).
The premise was/is that you cannot motivate anyone. You can only provide an environment in which they will motivate themselves.
Richmond Football Club will provide Syd with every opportunity for personal and professional development. It will just be up to Syd to grasp it (if that's what he really wants).
Gee I really hope this young fella can prove a few people wrong.
Roy Keane on motivation
I'm grounded, bro. Stack's 2019 was better than Walsh's, at least up until the drop in form.
I'd have several from the 2018 draft ahead of Walsh. The Kings, Rozee, Butters, Smith, Rankine, Blakey...Walsh is around Duursma level for mine. Which is still very good - it was a cracker of a draft class.
Tony Braxton-Hicks
There are no stupid ideas, just stupid people
I've just read Konrad Marshall's The Hard Way over Christmas, and in reference to kebabgate there was the line "does it bury you or does it plant you?"
I'll forgive the indiscretions if there's growth from it, but his lack of fitness at training before Christmas suggests that even the Dynamic Lifter applied liberally at Punt Road can't get him to sprout.
I love Syd's best and want to see it again in Tigers colours. Ultimately it's up to him to make that happen.
I'll forgive the indiscretions if there's growth from it, but his lack of fitness at training before Christmas suggests that even the Dynamic Lifter applied liberally at Punt Road can't get him to sprout.
I love Syd's best and want to see it again in Tigers colours. Ultimately it's up to him to make that happen.
This, we signed him knowing the issues. We have some level of responsibility to own that choice.
Come on Spook, you have to understand that all the fine upstanding right wingers here have never f***ed up in their lives. We know this, as they never want to give anyone a second chance, one strike and you're gone. I can only conclude they never did anything stupid in their teens and 20s or even later, after all, they would have been deservedly thrown on the scrap heap according to their own ideologies.
DS
L1: "Turned up to work this morning and got the sack for being late."
L2: "Wow, that seems a bit harsh."
L1: "Yeah, I was only due back last week."
Not one of your best posts David. One strike? If this was Syds 1st strike then we wouldn't have had dozens of pages discussing this. To suggest this is his 1st strike is ridiculous.
This is a pattern of repeated behaviour where he either hasn't taken on instruction from the club / police or both on repeated occasions. Being a professional footballer takes a lot of self discipline, you can't do what a lot of other people do at their ages (ie. going out every weekend, getting smashed every weekend etc). What this raises is repetitive behaviour where he can't take instruction from either the club or police and doesn't have the self discipline to see anything through.
He's clearly been told by the club or his manager that his career is hanging in the balance but still doesn't have the self discipline to take direction for the good of his career.
The club will know better than us and I back their decision whichever way they go, but there is only so much hand holding we can do with him, particularly with lower soft caps going forward.
His talent is undeniable and I've loved watching him play (particularly in 2019) but as others have said it isn't for everyone.
I'm sorry but if I hear the Ben Cousins comparisons one more time..
Cousin's came from a blessed, loving upbringing was given a gazillion chances & support to get himself right & couldn't.
He came to us not as a kid, he was a grown man. Yet he still hasn't grown up.
Sydney's upbringing couldn't have been more polar opposite & he's a 20 year old who's just finished his second season in the system.
I don't wish to slight Cuz here but the comparisions with Stack's situation are ludicrous & should end.
Cousin's came from a blessed, loving upbringing was given a gazillion chances & support to get himself right & couldn't.
He came to us not as a kid, he was a grown man. Yet he still hasn't grown up.
Sydney's upbringing couldn't have been more polar opposite & he's a 20 year old who's just finished his second season in the system.
I don't wish to slight Cuz here but the comparisions with Stack's situation are ludicrous & should end.
The drugs had gotten a complete hold of Cuzz before he got to Richmond. Was able to get himself together for 2 yrs but was straight back in its clutches the minute he retired.
Substitute Laurence Angwin for Cousins, then. There was an interesting article earlier in the year with Pagan bemoaning that he had the talent to set himself up for life but couldn't make the commitment, and Angwin speaking of finding contentment in small-town life playing for Ouyen United reserves. It doesn't have to end badly if Stack is cut. I don't believe our conscience is burdened.
My last post on this. On what is known I think he should be sacked, but hope he's kept as it'll imply there is more to it than what we know.
Watched a movie last night that most here would have watched Coach Carter. It was a film based on true events and the basket ball team had more than 1 Sydney Stacks.
Tough love, standards and redemption were the theme of the movie.
When players stuffed up there was redemption but standards were non negotiable and redemption came in the form of humility first and hard physical training.
While the coach was empathetic to individuals hard luck situations he didn't let that sway the standards set even to the point of forfeiting games.
There were those in the movie who focused on the hard luck stories and wanted the standards bent or lowered to suit the individual's circumstances but the Coach was
unrelenting and the players realised that the spin they used to game the system wouldn't work on the coach.
There are many parallels in the movie to Sydney's situation and some of those who are defending him.
I recommend re-watching the movie for a bit of perspective.
Tough love, standards and redemption were the theme of the movie.
When players stuffed up there was redemption but standards were non negotiable and redemption came in the form of humility first and hard physical training.
While the coach was empathetic to individuals hard luck situations he didn't let that sway the standards set even to the point of forfeiting games.
There were those in the movie who focused on the hard luck stories and wanted the standards bent or lowered to suit the individual's circumstances but the Coach was
unrelenting and the players realised that the spin they used to game the system wouldn't work on the coach.
There are many parallels in the movie to Sydney's situation and some of those who are defending him.
I recommend re-watching the movie for a bit of perspective.
forfeiting games didnt work for Carlton or Melbourne?
good call Oldy.
The only valid comparison is our stackman could win a Brownlow too
Poor old Cuz was born with a hair trigger in his head that allowed him to be the fastest gunslinger in The West, but leaves him incredibly susceptible to addiction.
I wonder if he could retrospectively get the trigger adjusted, if he would?
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Yeh Woods, Federer, Nadal etc aren't simply more talented than everyone else. They combine sublime talent with hard work.
John Daly tells the below story which is revealing.
“Tiger’s there in his workout clothes and I said, ‘Tiger, come have a beer with us, man. I go, ‘Man, you don’t need to work out. You need to drink a little bit with us.
“[Tiger] said, ‘If I had your talent, I’d be doing the same thing you’re doing. I’m looking at him thinking, ‘You’re crazy, man.'”
Daly won a couple of majors because he was so talented. Woods has won 15 majors because he was so talented and worked harder than anyone else.
Have a look at the lengths Lebron James goes to to get the very best out of himself.
Yeh, he was an AA backman in my eyes in 2019 until we moved him forward. That highlight reel shows what he is capable of. Fitness is the key. I had a pies supporter ask about him early on and I said he should be an AA half back after about his first 3 games. He was staggeringly good.
Stack has something special both on and off the field. He will be a unifying force between white and black Australia in his post football days.
Yeh, Cousins is a self-indulgent child who deserves no sympathy now. He's a domestic violence perpetrator. He knows what he has to do but chooses not to.
Syd is still learning.
