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Talkin' Tactics 2015
- Thread starter Carter
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Nah! No bruises Night Carter, just don't like getting sprayed with *smile* when people hyperventilate, sorry if a cranky old fart like me gets cynical on your excitement at times. Just a fault I've had for a very long time.Carter said:
Pace & Space. That's what we are working with.
Numerous times last night we worked the 45 degree kick back into the corridor. And boom. Pace. Gone. Owning the corridor both ways looks like a priority. We made Carlton go over the mark for the vast majority of the nite. Through controlling the middle of the ground and making them go wide into nothing, then up the line. Bachelor and Chaplin dropped off numerous times to be that loose behind the ball. Both move off their man towards the dangerous space.
Offensively, we moved it quick. Even from the last line Grimes and Rance tried to bust it open by forcing the Carlton pressure to come at the ball carrier and create overlap. And our run from behind the ball was superb, hitting gaps at pace and going forward.
Ball movement with pace to create space in the corridor.
Numerous times last night we worked the 45 degree kick back into the corridor. And boom. Pace. Gone. Owning the corridor both ways looks like a priority. We made Carlton go over the mark for the vast majority of the nite. Through controlling the middle of the ground and making them go wide into nothing, then up the line. Bachelor and Chaplin dropped off numerous times to be that loose behind the ball. Both move off their man towards the dangerous space.
Offensively, we moved it quick. Even from the last line Grimes and Rance tried to bust it open by forcing the Carlton pressure to come at the ball carrier and create overlap. And our run from behind the ball was superb, hitting gaps at pace and going forward.
Ball movement with pace to create space in the corridor.
Carter said:
i did notice we are looking to use more of the ground & not seemingly limited to one side of the ground, i like it. it's how Port have been running sides ragged, especially last year. there were some wide entry's in the 1st term but after that it was more to the centre. kicking to an open fwd line is so much more potent way to do it. allows the talls to run into space and take easy marks. a big tick!
Sintiger said:
SCOOP said:
Hunt & Mcintosh were our two best players last night.
Two guys with genuine toe that also run all day.
Question marks whether they can hold that form against better opposition, but they changed the whole dynamic of our transition last night.
So I guess it was the first hit out in the season proper, from the sounds of things it took a quarter and a half to get going.
What was the significant change?
What triggered that run of three goals that got us back in control?
Is this a game plan that can last all season? I've heard the 1st four games of the season are the hardest to run out.
Do you give this game plan the pass mark?
What was the significant change?
What triggered that run of three goals that got us back in control?
Is this a game plan that can last all season? I've heard the 1st four games of the season are the hardest to run out.
Do you give this game plan the pass mark?
Leysy Days said:
I'm no running coach but I'd imagine repeat 150m sprints up the ground requires a certain middle distance type endurance.
Different to say a Nathan Foley, who used to pack burst, and different to Brandon Ellis, who gets from contest to contest all game when others have tired.
This mid level endurance is what the game is currently about. See corridor and run. Then reload and go again.
McIntosh and Hunt can do this at quickish pace and still deliver at the end of the run.
Excitingly we have a few form players who can do this.
PJ in Osaka said:
We ran hard to space, with ball in hand we ran hard, created overlap and carved them up. Our transition with the ball from the back line was aggressive through the corridor and we hit targets. Our second tear players stood up and showed class and skill as well as clean hands in the air. It was actually seven straight.
We kept the blues in their back line and our pressure created turn overs. They couldn't create opportunities to score and didn't for over a q of footy.
Based on seeing us attempt that game style in the NAB and us pull it of after quarter time on Thursday night my expectations and hope for us has increased. I have seen us play such skill full, one grab, confident footy before. This will make us very hard to beat for the bottom half of the comp. Wether we can apply it to the top 4 sides is the big question.
Only round one so many questions will be asked of the players, coaches and game plan. Cant wait to see if we have the answers. Exciting season ahead based on our consistent improvement and the way we played on Thursday night
Not sure I agree with Carter's claim that we never went to the pockets. Clearly we did on numerous occasions. The difference for me was that we didn't do it all the time. When we did - it wasn't always from play hugging the boundary. Once or twice we got it to the pockets when there were easy options at the top of the square - I suppose old habits die hard. But generally I thought we mixed it up beautifully.
The other thing about this game plan is that I think the players will respond to it really well - especially the mids. It keeps them involved in the action sequences of the game a lot longer. Rather than push it over the boundary - set up for a throw in - get stuck in congestion and the head crunching stuff - you get to run and bounce and baulk and handball and link up. You get to do some of the creative stuff, some of the fun stuff you did when you were a kid and could show off a bit!
You'll run to space if you think you're going to be part of a scoring chain too - who knows - you may end up with it in front of the big sticks yourself.
Forwards are going to love seeing this working in front of them - waves of mids peeling all over the place. They'll get to dangerous places knowing there's a good chance they'll be delivered the ball where they have a good chance to score a major. And delivered from a free running player - not bombed up in the air in hope from a boundary throw ruck contest made up of congestion, seething grunt and confusion.
Compare this to our previous style where 2 or 3 mids would work the ball up the boundary - the rest of the midfield static and un-involved. The forwards wondering when it would be their turn - if ever - wondering what the point of leading would be when there was no space left to lead to when the ball finally did arrive.
I'm rapt for the players. I think they're going to love playing this style of footy.
The other thing about this game plan is that I think the players will respond to it really well - especially the mids. It keeps them involved in the action sequences of the game a lot longer. Rather than push it over the boundary - set up for a throw in - get stuck in congestion and the head crunching stuff - you get to run and bounce and baulk and handball and link up. You get to do some of the creative stuff, some of the fun stuff you did when you were a kid and could show off a bit!
You'll run to space if you think you're going to be part of a scoring chain too - who knows - you may end up with it in front of the big sticks yourself.
Forwards are going to love seeing this working in front of them - waves of mids peeling all over the place. They'll get to dangerous places knowing there's a good chance they'll be delivered the ball where they have a good chance to score a major. And delivered from a free running player - not bombed up in the air in hope from a boundary throw ruck contest made up of congestion, seething grunt and confusion.
Compare this to our previous style where 2 or 3 mids would work the ball up the boundary - the rest of the midfield static and un-involved. The forwards wondering when it would be their turn - if ever - wondering what the point of leading would be when there was no space left to lead to when the ball finally did arrive.
I'm rapt for the players. I think they're going to love playing this style of footy.
With this game style, for the first time in years we should see easy goals kicked. In previous seasons scoring goals for us was so bloody difficult it fatigued the players to such a point that we'd look like getting run over towards the end of matches. Hoping to see a few blowouts this season once we get on top.
FitenFitenWin said:
Couldn't agree more FFW.
Don't take my 'no wide entries' call too literally, i just meant that this particular method of entry didn't stand out at all, unlike previous years.
I reckon we only used it to kill their momentum at various stages.
Dimma hates a really fast game but will probably need to get used to them!
Anyone notice how influential EdWards wAs for us at clearances?
He's got a really good understanding with Maric
Dont underestimate how that helps us.
The opposition has to watch edwards clear the ball.
They are already trailing Cotchin and maybe Miles.
They have to tag Martin and deledio. Grigg causes them problems and now we've got McIntosh too.
He's got a really good understanding with Maric
Dont underestimate how that helps us.
The opposition has to watch edwards clear the ball.
They are already trailing Cotchin and maybe Miles.
They have to tag Martin and deledio. Grigg causes them problems and now we've got McIntosh too.
So I wonder what happens to D King's opinion when our top mid field players don't all get clamped and manage to have their usual influence on a game?kiwitiger said:
