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U.S Presidential Election

TigerMasochist

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Gawd it's laughable.
So for all the Trumpsters lying, cheating, narcissism, vindictive nature n down right failures at everything. It's still the Dumbocrats who are in total disarray n completely incompetent, n looking seriously like they'll lose the upcoming erection in November. Man, somebody is doing *smile* seriously wrong in Umerikuh if the Trumpster has got everyone on toast.
 

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HR

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I think he would consider himself a good salesman, businessman and President actually.
But if you hate him (his persona anyway) you would never agree i guess just to appease oneself.
Bit like me saying Jordan De Goey is a crap footballer just cause i reckon he holds himself in high regard and plays for a team i dont follow.
 

DavidSSS

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I'd say he's a crap President. Don't agree with a lot of his policies, don't like the way he takes decisions without heeding advice.

Does that mean I think the Democrats are wonderful? Well, I just don't get that idea. Just because I don't like Trump doesn't mean I automatically like the other, very very slightly different, option.

As for Trump's election, I thought that was quite simple. Hillary offered more of the same - middle class barely treading water, less secure jobs, rich get richer while everyone else goes further into debt to survive, etc, not exactly enticing. Trump claimed to offer a better deal for the less well off, I reckon he sold them a pup, but you could see why they were buying it.

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TigerMasochist

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As for Trump's election, I thought that was quite simple. Hillary offered more of the same - middle class barely treading water, less secure jobs, rich get richer while everyone else goes further into debt to survive, etc, not exactly enticing. Trump claimed to offer a better deal for the less well off, I reckon he sold them a pup, but you could see why they were buying it.

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Looking a lot like they're gunna go back n buy another pup off the Trumpster later this year. Guess when the choice is a pup that humps your leg a bit or one with distemper, fleas n mange, it's not so bad getting leg humped once in a while.
 

LeeToRainesToRoach

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As for Trump's election, I thought that was quite simple. Hillary offered more of the same - middle class barely treading water, less secure jobs, rich get richer while everyone else goes further into debt to survive, etc, not exactly enticing. Trump claimed to offer a better deal for the less well off, I reckon he sold them a pup, but you could see why they were buying it.

Black voters 'abandoned' by Democrats warm to Trump
Former NFL player Jack Brewer once raised campaign money for President Barack Obama, but now he’s among the increasing number of black voters who support President Trump.

"There is an awakening going on right now in the country,” Mr. Brewer said of black voters who traditionally support Democrats. “I’m going to take the guy who’s actually putting in the policies that are going to make life better for my young black son and my young black daughter, versus somebody who gives me lip service — like, unfortunately, the Democrats have done for our community for years."
 
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tigerman

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Looking a lot like they're gunna go back n buy another pup off the Trumpster later this year. Guess when the choice is a pup that humps your leg a bit or one with distemper, fleas n mange, it's not so bad getting leg humped once in a while.
Hump is a good analogy, Trump has done a fair bit of that, but it doesn't seem to bother the voters, half his luck.
 

TigerMasochist

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Hump is a good analogy, Trump has done a fair bit of that, but it doesn't seem to bother the voters, half his luck.
Maybe that's why Nancy hates him so bad, she never made it onto the Trumpsters humping list.

From the records of previous U.S. presidents it seems to be almost a requirement for voters that the Pres is gettin plenty.
 
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spook

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Trump got 3 million fewer votes than Hillary Clinton. And everyone hates Clinton. Trump is a criminal, an idiot, a bully, a moron, a fraud, a criminal, a liar, a criminal, a piece of *smile*, and he has a small, mushroom-shaped *smile*. As has been the conservative model here since Howard, he appeals to the worst in people, and to the worst people - but on steroids.

Unfortunately, the Democratic establishment are just as corrupt as the Republicans, just as beholden to the rich and to corporations, otherwise they'd ride Bernie all the way to the White House and real reform that actually starts making the US what it claims to be.
 
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tigeronaharley

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Trump will win & win well, he is not a politician but a very good businessman & runs the country accordingly, he has America in a far better place than Obama ever did. We need a Trump like in Australia & rid ourselves of the rubbish we have here.
The USA media only report of the digruntled minority not the majority who support Trump.
Pelosi & the Democrats have dug their own grave.
I love America & visit when I can..I am jealous of there constitutional freedoms ...Australia meanwhile is dying a slow death !!
 
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Giardiasis

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Trump got 3 million fewer votes than Hillary Clinton. And everyone hates Clinton. Trump is a criminal, an idiot, a bully, a moron, a fraud, a criminal, a liar, a criminal, a piece of ****, and he has a small, mushroom-shaped *****. As has been the conservative model here since Howard, he appeals to the worst in people, and to the worst people - but on steroids.

Unfortunately, the Democratic establishment are just as corrupt as the Republicans, just as beholden to the rich and to corporations, otherwise they'd ride Bernie all the way to the White House and real reform that actually starts making the US what it claims to be.
You were going ok until the Sanders bit. You either don’t get him or you don’t get what “Land of the free” means.
 

LeeToRainesToRoach

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As has been the conservative model here since Howard, he appeals to the worst in people, and to the worst people - but on steroids.

Two things he does well are national security and economic prosperity. Arguably all you need to be a successful leader.

The Democrats are not as leftist as, say, Australia's left-wing parties. If they run with Sanders - who is far, far left - it will allow Trump a little wiggle room with his policies and he will capture more of the vote.
 
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Baloo

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Trump will win & win well, he is not a politician but a very good businessman & runs the country accordingly

You do realise that Trump's businesses have been declared bankrupt 6 times? If that's a sign of a very good businessman, I'd hate to see what you consider a good businessman, or average.
 
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spook

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Two things he does well are national security and economic prosperity. Arguably all you need to be a successful leader.

The Democrats are not as leftist as, say, Australia's left-wing parties. If they run with Sanders - who is far, far left - it will allow Trump a little wiggle room with his policies and he will capture more of the vote.
Economic prosperity for the rich. Most Americans live pay cheque to pay cheque.

25% of Republicans voted for Bernie. Plenty of the disaffected working class whites who delivered Trump victory would have voted for Bernie - he would have won in 2016 if the Dems hadn't rigged it for Hillary, and he'll win this year if they get behind him. He's not far, far, left - that you think he is shows just how far politics has shifted to the right in the past two decades.

I watched the latest Dem debate last night. Tom Steyer impressed. Mayor Pete was exposed as the fraud he is.
 
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spook

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You do realise that Trump's businesses have been declared bankrupt 6 times? If that's a sign of a very good businessman, I'd hate to see what you consider a good businessman, or average.
Trump sent a casino broke. That's virtually impossible. Imagine how incompetent a businessman you'd have to be to bankrupt a money-printing factory.

Trump would have disappeared into obscurity except he owed the banks so much money and was so incapable of paying it back they took so few cents on the dollar they could have been St Kilda players in the 80s. Trump has a history of not paying sub-contractors. I can't believe no one dragged him out the back and broke his legs. He's a dog.
 
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LeeToRainesToRoach

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He's not far, far, left - that you think he is shows just how far politics has shifted to the right in the past two decades.

Mate the people backing Sanders are full-on Antifa types. Even the NYT referred to them as "militants".

Sanders is a crazy man and will chase swinging voters to the other side in the same way the Greens have done here.

- open borders
- free tertiary education
- double the minimum wage
- free health care to illegal immigrants
- prisoners can vote
- high taxes

He won't oppose firearms though.

Basically plans to take from achievers and give to people who don't deserve, or are yet to deserve. Bernie's a revolutionary who praises communism. A mad *smile*.
 
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Giardiasis

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Two things he does well are national security and economic prosperity. Arguably all you need to be a successful leader.

The Democrats are not as leftist as, say, Australia's left-wing parties. If they run with Sanders - who is far, far left - it will allow Trump a little wiggle room with his policies and he will capture more of the vote.
He is a war criminal and an economic stooge. He got sucked into a false flag in Syria and murdered a high profile leader of a foreign country. His handling of Iran and the nuclear deal are a disgrace. His tariff policies are complete folly and the debt has racked up even more. About the only good thing he brings is comedy value, although I’ll give him credit for pulling out of Paris.
 

Sintiger

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He has done exactly what he was always going to do. And he is doing a decent job, certainly not the worst outcomes in the history of the USA for a single term.
The best part of the show is the way his opposition handle themselves, interestingly very much like Australian opposition and its current supporters, tanties and dummies being spat as far as the eye can see. Distracting nobody but themselves.
That’s just BS
For the last 3-4 months the only one throwing a tantie was Trump.
He was always going to be cleared by the stacked senate, not sure what the surprise or fuss is about. Victory lap for what exactly?
The thing that annoys me the most is this assumption that just because he is President or even because he may win the next election that somehow everyone has to accept he is a decent president or even a decent human being. He is a narcisist of the highest level who has done untold harm to so many people across the globe.
His latest little gem didn’t even rate a mention in most of the press because we are so used to it, the lifting of the ban on the US military using land mines.
if the people of the US are stupid enough to vote for him then so be it, but that doesn’t make what he does right.
 
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The_General

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George W Bush lied to the world, conning most "Western" countries into a war we shouldn't have been involved in.

Most consider him an inept politician and thick as two planks.

He got two terms. Length of Presidency does not equal greatness.
 
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