Yep agree. They’re close to be coming as relevant as the Australian Democrats.
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Vic State Election 22
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Pakula is the last person I want to see anywhere near the leadership of the ALP…
The last time I can remember writing on a ballot paper invalidating a vote was back in the No Dams campaign, and that was early 1980s. It has been a valid vote for decades as long as you do not obscure the preferences and the vote is clear. Geez, keep up!
I always write a few choice messages on the ballot, makes it a bit less boring for the vote counters and scrutineers. It was a valid vote back when I worked as a poll clerk which is decades ago.
DS
Well, time to get started then, the sooner the better, the sooner the cheaper and the sooner we start the longer we have to make the necessary changes.
Yeah, look, if we hadn't wasted the last 20 years giving climate deniers a platform for their uninformed idiocy, and having the MSM promote doubt when we should have been looking at the evidence and what needed to be done; then we may have had time to act gradually. But that chance was blown and now we need to act a lot quicker.
Geez, Kennett's retort was pathetic. He just pulled a cliche out of the right wing songbook with no evidence and little conviction.
DS
If you want clean energy quicker,there are solutions out there,micro nuclear ,,,,just saying
You're jumping to massive conclusions.
All of Labor's infrastructure projects are costed. I can guarantee it.
There's a massively intense process that goes into these things. I've had involvement in these things in the past. There's procurement processes and standards for establishing budgetary estimates for all infra projects, regardless of which party is in government.
The only two projects I'm aware* of that in the past 15 years which didn't have that process followed, was East-West link and Dandenong Transformation Project.
Both were instigated as unsolicited offers by Private Industry to the Libs. Both projects were canned by Labor as they were heavily biased to give generous conditions to those private bidders.
* I'll caveat that, by saying Westgate Tunnel seems to be another unsolicited offer from industry, but I'm completely unaware of how that procurement process worked.
Hmm, micro nuclear, yeah that's a form of power generation which is used . . . hmm . . . nowhere.
According to the World Nuclear Organisation we have about 90 years of uranium for power stations. Of course, that's at current usage levels, which will shrink if we build more nuclear power stations, so if we double the output of nuclear power stations we go down to 45 years of supply. Hardly a long term solution. Although there is one long term aspect, it takes decades to get a nuclear power station built.
For maybe 45 years of 20% of the world's electricity what do we get? Really expensive energy and 250,000 years of toxic waste for which there is no known safe disposal.
Yeah, no thanks.
DS
Im not jumping to any conclusions ,he couldn't produce the cost of the rail project,he has 35 billion costed ,but it's expected to cost 125 billion -200 billion
A micro plant,not a major nuclear plant .
A micro plant is expected to take 3-5 years
Well until we get a another source of constant power,it's a alternative.
Small nuclear power reactors - World Nuclear Association
There is revival of interest in small and simpler units for generating electricity from nuclear power, and for process heat. This interest in small nuclear power reactors is driven both by a desire to reduce capital costs and to provide power away from large grid systems.
Are you sure you're not a Collingwood or Cats supporter?
You whinge and moan like Scott.
I believe the part that has been costed is the Cheltenham (?) To Box Hill portion. Not the entire loop, as that's going to take years before they start, let alone construct.
It's not going to be one long loop, it'll be a series of shorter ones.
My favourite moment last night was when the Channel 7 reporter asked that *smile* of *smile* Jeff Kennett, you said this election was a referendum on Dan Andrews, so what does the result tell you?
The muppet voiced flog, who despite causing as much mental health harm as any elected official ever has continually paints himself as a mental health saviour, said 'it didn't happen'.
Fortunately Steve Bracks was on hand to tell him that losing a referendum doesn't mean you can then just claim it didn't occur.
As an aside a search through the Herald Sun shows the Bolt article saying Dan should resign is no more. Seems even Rupert knows when he is beaten.
Bracks was excellent again last night and re enforced the massive gulf between considered, progressive and thoughtful political commentary and opinion on the left side of politics v nothing much more than base, pub standard commentary and thinking on the right.
Between Kennett and Smith I couldn’t work out who was the bigger dumbed down, loud, big mouth-bully dinosaur.
Note: I thought Kroger was pretty good, however. He’s very frustrated by the current standards and quality of people representing the conservatives right now.
Can't agree on Kroger. Thought he was the epitome of the rich, white, male liberal who juts can't understand why everyone doesn't agree with him.
There was a passage when he spoke about the asian female candidate for Hawthorn and another asian candidate in the upper house that was a textbook 'we've given the slanty eyes a chance and they still didn't vote for us' moment.
I flicked between a few different stations but caught bracks when he made this point. When he was in opposition the alp took that opportunity to refresh the party, bring in new people, new ideas etc. The libs haven’t done that the past eight years, they keep recycling and regurgitating the same old faces. They’ve wasted the past 8 years and if they continue to do the same thing will waste the next 8
On the ole Toorak, reefer jacket, Athenaeum front and political standpoint front, yes you are right. He’s a bit old school. But in terms of assessing politics on a strategic basis and where and why things go right and wrong, he’s not that bad. And importantly, he’s not a big mouth bully that tries to talk over the top of everyone like most of the other LNP dinosaurs.
I mean 20% for a new independent isn't bad, but hopefully he'll return to obscurity now.
Good to see the Bengal bedwetting continues unabated post-election.
Please, give me one example of a micro-nuclear reactor in generating power in production anywhere in the world.
