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U.S Presidential Election
- Thread starter Chiang Mai Tiger
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Utter utter bollocks.
Peaceful protests have got Black Americans NOWHERE in the last 60 or 70 years. Massive very massive peaceful protests have got them nowhere.
Law enforcement in the USA still treats them like s*** and still kills them at a disproportionate rate to their numbers in the population. They are routinely denied voting rights, there are less places to vote in black districts and states (who control voting in the USA) work very hard to make sure blacks are prevented from voting.
What would you do if it was your brother, or father or friends getting killed or beaten up by the cops? Black parents in the USA have to give their kids, mainly sons, the talk about how to deal with cops. A black professor was on the news today talking about getting hauled up driving to work. This does not happen to White Americans.
So, when they try peaceful protests not only are they ignored, you get the crap like the above - oh taking the knee is offensive, it breeds anarchy. What rubbish, ignoring the peaceful protests like taking the knee is what causes riots and looting. If White America wants someone to blame they should buy a mirror.
In the real world those who have the power, exercise the power to their advantage. There comes a time to resist. Looting is counter-productive and generally just opportunism. But violence against property pales into insignificance next to violence against people. I am far far more offended by the treatment of Black Americans than I am of the looting. It is a moral choice, I value people over property.
DS
Fire, pestilence and a country at war with itself: the Trump presidency is over | Robert Reich
A pandemic unabated, an economy in meltdown, cities in chaos over police killings. All our supposed leader does is tweet
you continue to ignore all the reports of all the peaceful protests that are happening. the protest the trump supporter drive the truck into was a good example.Your knowledge of American history is poor. (Mine is not much better.)
Because I don't give a *smile*. They're not the story here.
Your knowledge of American history is poor. (Mine is not much better.)
What can I say except WTF?????
Look at that massive demonstration, think about how long ago it was (and, by the way, WTF did you think I was referring too above when I said they have had very massive peaceful demonstrations in the past?).
Yet, they still get disproportionately killed, they still get pulled up and arrested for no other reason than they are black, their voting rights are legislated against deliberately.
Very impressive demonstration, but hasn't got them equality.
Talk about making my point for me.
DS
no, you just want to bag the 'left', praise Trump and defend cops who kill.
WTF indeed. You said peaceful protest has achieved nothing and are clearly wrong, given this was THE pivotal moment in the civil rights movement.
Back in your box, bigmouth.
Yeah, he's a great leader alright. Hiding in a bunker rage-tweeting even as his advisors were urging him to address the nation.
www.nytimes.com
Meanwhile Biden was on the ground in Delaware.
www.businessinsider.com
As Protests and Violence Spill Over, Trump Shrinks Back (Published 2020)
The president spent Sunday out of sight, berating opponents on Twitter, even as some of his campaign advisers were recommending that he deliver a televised address to an anxious nation.
Meanwhile Biden was on the ground in Delaware.
Joe Biden visited a Black Lives Matter protest site in Delaware as Trump rages on Twitter against demonstrators
Biden left his home for the second time in a week to visit the protest site and was photographed kneeling on the ground with a man and his son.
www.businessinsider.com
At one end you have Dr. King, at the other the Black Panthers. Somewhere in between are Kaepernick and flagburners.
Learn your history mutha********.
From his speech "The Other America"
Certain conditions continue to exist in our society, which must be condemned as vigorously as we condemn riots. But in the final analysis, a riot is the language of the unheard. And what is it that America has failed to hear? It has failed to hear that the plight of the Negro poor has worsened over the last few years. It has failed to hear that the promises of freedom and justice have not been met. And it has failed to hear that large segments of white society are more concerned about tranquility and the status quo than about justice, equality and humanity. And so in a real sense our nation’s summers of riots are caused by our nation’s winters of delay. And as long as America postpones justice, we stand in the position of having these recurrences of violence and riots over and over again. Social justice and progress are the absolute guarantors of riot prevention
From his speech "The Other America"
Certain conditions continue to exist in our society, which must be condemned as vigorously as we condemn riots. But in the final analysis, a riot is the language of the unheard. And what is it that America has failed to hear? It has failed to hear that the plight of the Negro poor has worsened over the last few years. It has failed to hear that the promises of freedom and justice have not been met. And it has failed to hear that large segments of white society are more concerned about tranquility and the status quo than about justice, equality and humanity. And so in a real sense our nation’s summers of riots are caused by our nation’s winters of delay. And as long as America postpones justice, we stand in the position of having these recurrences of violence and riots over and over again. Social justice and progress are the absolute guarantors of riot prevention
Yeah, 1967. Are you trying to tell me the lot of the black American has not improved since then?
King wasn't Jesus Christ, not everything he uttered was gospel truth. What did the riots in dozens of cities in the wake of his death achieve?
And could you translate the asterisks for me? I can't find a word that fits.
People exercising their right to free speech?
By your logic, the Germans who tore down the Berlin Wall, or the Iraqis who pulled down Saddam statues were unpatriotic.
Criticising one's country when it is wrong is an act of true patriotism, far more than *smile* flag-waving is.
And yet, as Martin Luther King himself says in the quote supplied: the promises of freedom and justice have not been met.
The massive protests achieved nothing.
Are you seriously claiming that Black Americans are treated equally to whites? FFS, you are delusional.
Back in my box? You can go back to planet delusion, the rest of us will try and deal with the real world.
Trump is a narcissistic idiot who is dividing the USA, doing SFA in response to COVID19 and thrashing about throwing s*** and hoping some of it sticks to his opponents. Yet he is your hero, you along with the right wing media cheer squad.
DS
If I was a racist I might claim black people are inherently less capable and require special treatment as they don't have the same potential as other humans. But millions of black Americans have put the lie to it by being successful. Others just wonder why success isn't handed to them. Same applies to whitey.
America has a great tradition of providing opportunity. You've got to want to take it, though.
Do I steal those headphones because a black man died in police custody, or do I study for the exam on Thursday?
You came here to throw stones. I'm just lobbing them back.
