Retire / Trade / Delist

[DavidSSS]

Yep, time to plan for the future, which could be as early as next year. We still have some great players and we do need to keep some experience to teach the young players as they develop.

I think it is time for Cotch and Houli to hang up the boots. Riewoldt can have another year.

There are a fair number of young players who are looking to be not up to the standard, but I would keep RCD, Martyn, Ralphsmith, Stack, Mansell, CJ, MRJ, Cumberland and probably a few I have forgotten. They need time to develop.

DS

 

[Scoop]

I'm amazed that on the Baker thread that the mere thought of him not being untouchable at trade time under any circumstances has enraged so many.

So my question is this, as of right now, who are our untouchables? That if someone asks about them we just flat out say

"No, he's never going to be on the table in any trade you offer."

For me, there's only two. Dusty and Bolton (providing he signs). Everyone else you listen and consider the offer.

 

[houstontiger]

I'm amazed that on the Baker thread that the mere thought of him not being untouchable at trade time under any circumstances has enraged so many.

So my question is this, as of right now, who are our untouchables? That if someone asks about them we just flat out say

"No, he's never going to be on the table in any trade you offer."

For me, there's only two. Dusty and Bolton (providing he signs). Everyone else you listen and consider the offer.

Baker is a favourite so I'm bias.

I reckon Vlastuin, Grimes, Balta, Lynch, Nank and Edwards would be on my untouchable list too (with Martin and Bolton)...maybe Lambert.

 

[Dont Argue]

I'm amazed that on the Baker thread that the mere thought of him not being untouchable at trade time under any circumstances has enraged so many.

So my question is this, as of right now, who are our untouchables? That if someone asks about them we just flat out say

"No, he's never going to be on the table in any trade you offer."

For me, there's only two. Dusty and Bolton (providing he signs). Everyone else you listen and consider the offer.

There are heart and sole players, important to the fabric and culture of the club. Club champions.
For mine
1. Grimes.
2. Cotchin.
3. Nankervis.
4. Edwards.
5. Dusty
6. Vlastuin
7. JR8
Then for ability/potential.
8. Bolton.
9. Balta.

 

[TigerPort]

At our point in list management cycle any untouchable list will not include those over 31.

They are hardly likely to move anyway

 

[Scoop]

Baker is a favourite so I'm bias.

I reckon Vlastuin, Grimes, Balta, Lynch, Nank and Edwards would be on my untouchable list too (with Martin and Bolton)...maybe Lambert.

Bulldogs ring and offer Arron Naughton for Balta. Would you hang up on them or at least walk back to the table and consider it?

If anyone ask about Dusty and Bolton I'd just cut them off and say "don't bother", thats untouchable.

 

[Brodders17]

I'm amazed that on the Baker thread that the mere thought of him not being untouchable at trade time under any circumstances has enraged so many.

So my question is this, as of right now, who are our untouchables? That if someone asks about them we just flat out say

"No, he's never going to be on the table in any trade you offer."

For me, there's only two. Dusty and Bolton (providing he signs). Everyone else you listen and consider the offer.

Its a good hypothetical internet conversation, but I would say almost our most untouchable would be Nank (compared to possible trade value.)
If the Suns offered King, Rowell, and pick 3 for Dusty we would have to think about it.
Likewise, a young gun and an early pick for Bolton would be considered.

In reality we arent going to push any of our 30+ premiership stars out the door to another club, unless they instigate it.

On Baker, I would be very reluctant, as has been mentioned, he is an incredibly tough, skilled and versatile 23yo. He is the exact age we need, and will help us contend again next year, while still be young enough and good enough to help through a transition if we do spend time not contending. But if we got someone similar age, who is proven, and added more value than Baker than of course we would consider it.

 

[Smoking Aces]

Everyone is trade-able at the right price. However be also prepared to rip the clubs soul out if you have that mentality.

 

[MD Jazz]

Bulldogs ring and offer Arron Naughton for Balta. Would you hang up on them or at least walk back to the table and consider it?

If anyone ask about Dusty and Bolton I'd just cut them off and say "don't bother", thats untouchable.

I'd tell them to shove their long haired poser, we'll keep the croat.

 

[zippadeee]

Retire Trade Delist
Where's Sackings??
Lets wake them up again

 

[Carter]

Its a good hypothetical internet conversation, but I would say almost our most untouchable would be Nank (compared to possible trade value.)
If the Suns offered King, Rowell, and pick 3 for Dusty we would have to think about it.
Likewise, a young gun and an early pick for Bolton would be considered.

In reality we arent going to push any of our 30+ premiership stars out the door to another club, unless they instigate it.

On Baker, I would be very reluctant, as has been mentioned, he is an incredibly tough, skilled and versatile 23yo. He is the exact age we need, and will help us contend again next year, while still be young enough and good enough to help through a transition if we do spend time not contending. But if we got someone similar age, who is proven, and added more value than Baker than of course we would consider it.

To me, our greatest need is bolstering the midfield. If Bakes, who I admire greatly, cannot play as a pure midfielder and has currency, then I would at least entertain the notion of a mutually beneficial trade.

 

[Brodders17]

To me, our greatest need is bolstering the midfield. If Bakes, who I admire greatly, cannot play as a pure midfielder and has currency, then I would at least entertain the notion of a mutually beneficial trade.

I dont disagree. We would just want to have a fair degree of confidence that whoever we got was going to be a 10year midfielder for us.

 

[Scoop]

I dont disagree. We would just want to have a fair degree of confidence that whoever we got was going to be a 10year midfielder for us.

And that's my take. I never said get rid of him.

 

[Scoop]

I'd tell them to shove their long haired poser, we'll keep the croat.

Is that you Dodoro?

 

[Brodders17]

And that's my take. I never said get rid of him.

True that, but this is the internet. You killed Bambi! And danced on the grave.

 

[King Kong]

Leppa said it well. Our depth has dropped in the last 2 years.

The likes of Naish, Chol, Ross and Aarts are not AFL standard and when combined with Cotchin, Houli, Riewoldt and Astbury who are done the team is simply not good enough to win games. No team can cover 8 players who aren't good enough to play AFL anymore.

 

[tigerhalsey]

Source:

The small but crucial call that will have a big impact on AFL club salary caps

Morris: The $5.4m call that could put AFL clubs in salary cap hell

www.foxsports.com.au

This might put a spanner in the works

 

[houstontiger]

Bulldogs ring and offer Arron Naughton for Balta. Would you hang up on them or at least walk back to the table and consider it?

If anyone ask about Dusty and Bolton I'd just cut them off and say "don't bother", thats untouchable.

Yes, but in fairness Scoop, Naughton for Balta is not realistically going to happen. With that way of thinking no-one is untouchable in fantasy trade talks. If a team offered 5 first rounders (4 in the top ten) for Dustin Martin you would hang up on them?

Realistically we have at least 6-10 untouchables. Most teams would I reckon.

 

[craig]

Retire Trade Delist
Where's Sackings??
Lets wake them up again

Savage !!

 

[DuD_Delist]

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Source:

The small but crucial call that will have a big impact on AFL club salary caps

Morris: The $5.4m call that could put AFL clubs in salary cap hell

www.foxsports.com.au

This might put a spanner in the works

That'll make our picks even more valuable.
Our 2nd rnds for future 1sts?