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2022 Draft Thread
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Bit bloody hard to find a way to avoid myself. Been trying for years but just can't quite seem to get away. Got any tips?
Absolutely, they have done a wonderful job sowing the seeds of doubt, it's certainly not skill based.
Always liked him as a batsman. Cricket's a game where so much hinges on individual talent n consistent form that sometimes players forget to ensure they fit a team mantra n fall into a career crevice they can never climb out of no matter how much talent.
Some last minute changes, something concerning me about Tsatas and the foot injury, Jack Trengove keeps entering my thoughts, with this level of doubt I have to downgrade a fraction. So many question marks so if in doubt go tall, Cadman my final call on pick 2. I've also upgraded Binns, Charlie Clarke after closer examination of his midfield potential & brought in Ted Clohesy into the top 50.
2022 Draft Top 60
1. Will Ashcroft
2. Aaron Cadman
3. Harry Sheezel
4. George Wardlaw
5. Matteas Phillipou
6. Elijah Tsatas
7. Matt Jefferson
8. Elijah Hewett
9. Cam McKenzie
10. Jhye Clark
These are the players who I believe could headline the draft class in 4 years. There's a bit of risk with this grouping, you always run the gauntlet when you pick players with injury history (see Wardlaw) & also run the risk of coming up empty handed once you start recruiting key position prospects. The evenness of this draft makes these gambles a bit more palatable however, plenty of risk attached to Sheezel but the upside warrants the outlay. Hewett strikes me as a great value bet, there's something about his swagger that screams top 10 talent & if he slides outside the first half dozen then it would appear on the surface to be a be a very healthy top tier. Probably the biggest surprise for many is Tsatas climbing up the charts, I've decided to roll with him as the sixth best prospect after some careful consideration, the reasons for this boil down to the fact his contested game is far more evolved than the raw numbers would suggest. He does collect a lot of outside ball but his clearance numbers are comparable to many of the other mids featured in the top echelon. His two way running gives him the edge over players like Hewett. The fact he's a pro athlete also means he'll be good to go from day one. Wardlaw would be higher if not for the soft tissue injuries & mediocre kicking & Sheezel probably gets the award for the riskiest of all the top 5. I'm a fan of Sheezel by the way, I just feel he needs a good home to nurture his obvious talents & that would appear unlikely.
11. Lachie Cowan
12. Reuben Ginbey
13. Bailey Humphrey
14. Ollie Hollands
15. Jedd Busslinger
16. Ollie Hotton
17. Jacob Konstanty
18. Harry Barnett
19. Henry Hustwaite
20. Brayden George
All these players have the tools to very good AFL footballers, not necessarily headline acts but certainly core footballers who will provide a fresh injection of talent. I wouldn't normally have a ruck this high but Barnett looks to be versatile enough to spend some minutes in the forward line. Humphrey doesn't do it for me like he does with some others, I think it's the kicking that nudges him out of top 10 calculations. Busslinger is coming back from shoulder surgery so this must be factored into the equation, likewise George who is talented but tarnished by an ACL injury. Cowan comes in at 11 & that seems fair weight for the best rebounder in the draft. The fact he can also roll through the midfield also adds to his value. I see him in a similar light to Zach Williams when he was playing well for GWS, not so much nowadays. Ginbey still worries me somewhat but I'll slot him in at 12 based on some outstanding athletic capabilities. I don't think he's a guaranteed midfield starter, I think his WAFL form has brought him back to earth but there are some very appealing traits, I can definitely see the attraction.
21. Charlie Clarke
22. Isaac Keeler
23. Edward Allan
24. Coby Burgiel
25. Jaxon Binns
26. Harry Lemmey
27. Josh Weddle
28. Tom McCallum
29. Jakob Ryan
30. Darcy Jones
All these players have the ability to play AFL, some like Weddle & Binns probably don't have monster upsides but they would also appear to be legitimate best 22 candidates. Keeler probably goes later, that's the word on the street. One SA watcher who has seen a fair bit of him has gone completely cold & basically said he's a Vickery clone, I reckon that's a bit harsh but it probably accounts for his apparent fall from grace. I've bumped Lemmey up the charts because the upside is huge, I think people are too dismissive of the fact he had covid this year, for me it now becomes a buying opportunity and if he lands at Punt Road I'll be stoked. McCallum slipping under the radar a bit, I think all the Tassie boys cop a raw deal in these mock drafts, I personally put him neck & neck with Weddle at this particular juncture.
31. Jed Hagen
32. Max Gruzewski
33. Lewis Hayes
34. Billy Dowling
35. Jaspa Fletcher
36. Max Michalanney
37. Harry Rowston
38. Sam Gilbey
39. Alwyn Davey Jnr.
40. Jaiden Magor
This group carries some risk & I expect a handful of busts but there's plenty of positives to work with. Gruzewski has tons of talent but he still needs to establish a permanent home on the field, I think he's best suited to defence but I'm betting someone will size him up as a potential forward. Hayes collapsed at the combine so I'm putting him in the high risk basket. Dowling is a ball magnet, some ridiculous numbers in the SANFL u/18s, probably more a Grigg style accumulator rather than a coal face extractor but his leadership qualities appeal & so does his ability to run opponents off their feet. Binns is another running machine who should carve out an AFL career & Gilbey is one of those value defenders who could easily become a permanent fixture in an AFL side.
41. Ethan Phillips
42. Mitch Szybkowski
43. Will Verall
44. Cooper Harvey
45. Nick Sadler
46. Max Knobel
47. Ted Clohesy
48. Jason Gilbee
49. Luke Teal
50. Noah Long
Quite a bit of speculation with this group, many will miss out given there will only be 45 selections apparently. With the exception of Phillips I'd say the others will need a few years in the system. Knobel will take time but he has shown some forward potential which adds to his value. Plenty of decent looking flankers, Teal & Gilbee solid picks and are the types who could defy their lowish standing. Verall is higher than most but his leap is very good for a heavy set ruck, Campbell slipping under the radar a bit.
51. Anthony Munkara
52. James Van Es
53. Jayden Davey
54. Archie Lovelock
55. Harvey Gallagher
56. Marlin Corbett
57. Phoenix Foster
58. Seth Campbell
59. Cooper Vickery
60. Blake Drury
It's actually very hard to split this group from the 40-50 bracket, it's really a raffle from here. Van Es looks like a Talia type & could easily go higher, plenty of crafty small forwards to choose from, Harvey Gallagher another in the frame & he may get picked up earlier if he's seen as a defender. Corbett features due to his low trajectory bullet like kicking, Foster is one Richmond could seriously consider, very reliable in front of goal & ousts Scully for a spot in the top 60. I thought I'd also mention Casey Voss, 92% DE in the SANFL, probably lacking some athleticism but those numbers are crazy good.
The reality with this year's draft is many will miss out, I suspect there will be some disappointment after the draft but there's always the state leagues to offer up a second chance. Joshua Browne is one who forced his way onto the West Coast list last year, nothing concrete as yet but he's moving closer to a permanent berth.
2022 Draft Top 60
1. Will Ashcroft
2. Aaron Cadman
3. Harry Sheezel
4. George Wardlaw
5. Matteas Phillipou
6. Elijah Tsatas
7. Matt Jefferson
8. Elijah Hewett
9. Cam McKenzie
10. Jhye Clark
These are the players who I believe could headline the draft class in 4 years. There's a bit of risk with this grouping, you always run the gauntlet when you pick players with injury history (see Wardlaw) & also run the risk of coming up empty handed once you start recruiting key position prospects. The evenness of this draft makes these gambles a bit more palatable however, plenty of risk attached to Sheezel but the upside warrants the outlay. Hewett strikes me as a great value bet, there's something about his swagger that screams top 10 talent & if he slides outside the first half dozen then it would appear on the surface to be a be a very healthy top tier. Probably the biggest surprise for many is Tsatas climbing up the charts, I've decided to roll with him as the sixth best prospect after some careful consideration, the reasons for this boil down to the fact his contested game is far more evolved than the raw numbers would suggest. He does collect a lot of outside ball but his clearance numbers are comparable to many of the other mids featured in the top echelon. His two way running gives him the edge over players like Hewett. The fact he's a pro athlete also means he'll be good to go from day one. Wardlaw would be higher if not for the soft tissue injuries & mediocre kicking & Sheezel probably gets the award for the riskiest of all the top 5. I'm a fan of Sheezel by the way, I just feel he needs a good home to nurture his obvious talents & that would appear unlikely.
11. Lachie Cowan
12. Reuben Ginbey
13. Bailey Humphrey
14. Ollie Hollands
15. Jedd Busslinger
16. Ollie Hotton
17. Jacob Konstanty
18. Harry Barnett
19. Henry Hustwaite
20. Brayden George
All these players have the tools to very good AFL footballers, not necessarily headline acts but certainly core footballers who will provide a fresh injection of talent. I wouldn't normally have a ruck this high but Barnett looks to be versatile enough to spend some minutes in the forward line. Humphrey doesn't do it for me like he does with some others, I think it's the kicking that nudges him out of top 10 calculations. Busslinger is coming back from shoulder surgery so this must be factored into the equation, likewise George who is talented but tarnished by an ACL injury. Cowan comes in at 11 & that seems fair weight for the best rebounder in the draft. The fact he can also roll through the midfield also adds to his value. I see him in a similar light to Zach Williams when he was playing well for GWS, not so much nowadays. Ginbey still worries me somewhat but I'll slot him in at 12 based on some outstanding athletic capabilities. I don't think he's a guaranteed midfield starter, I think his WAFL form has brought him back to earth but there are some very appealing traits, I can definitely see the attraction.
21. Charlie Clarke
22. Isaac Keeler
23. Edward Allan
24. Coby Burgiel
25. Jaxon Binns
26. Harry Lemmey
27. Josh Weddle
28. Tom McCallum
29. Jakob Ryan
30. Darcy Jones
All these players have the ability to play AFL, some like Weddle & Binns probably don't have monster upsides but they would also appear to be legitimate best 22 candidates. Keeler probably goes later, that's the word on the street. One SA watcher who has seen a fair bit of him has gone completely cold & basically said he's a Vickery clone, I reckon that's a bit harsh but it probably accounts for his apparent fall from grace. I've bumped Lemmey up the charts because the upside is huge, I think people are too dismissive of the fact he had covid this year, for me it now becomes a buying opportunity and if he lands at Punt Road I'll be stoked. McCallum slipping under the radar a bit, I think all the Tassie boys cop a raw deal in these mock drafts, I personally put him neck & neck with Weddle at this particular juncture.
31. Jed Hagen
32. Max Gruzewski
33. Lewis Hayes
34. Billy Dowling
35. Jaspa Fletcher
36. Max Michalanney
37. Harry Rowston
38. Sam Gilbey
39. Alwyn Davey Jnr.
40. Jaiden Magor
This group carries some risk & I expect a handful of busts but there's plenty of positives to work with. Gruzewski has tons of talent but he still needs to establish a permanent home on the field, I think he's best suited to defence but I'm betting someone will size him up as a potential forward. Hayes collapsed at the combine so I'm putting him in the high risk basket. Dowling is a ball magnet, some ridiculous numbers in the SANFL u/18s, probably more a Grigg style accumulator rather than a coal face extractor but his leadership qualities appeal & so does his ability to run opponents off their feet. Binns is another running machine who should carve out an AFL career & Gilbey is one of those value defenders who could easily become a permanent fixture in an AFL side.
41. Ethan Phillips
42. Mitch Szybkowski
43. Will Verall
44. Cooper Harvey
45. Nick Sadler
46. Max Knobel
47. Ted Clohesy
48. Jason Gilbee
49. Luke Teal
50. Noah Long
Quite a bit of speculation with this group, many will miss out given there will only be 45 selections apparently. With the exception of Phillips I'd say the others will need a few years in the system. Knobel will take time but he has shown some forward potential which adds to his value. Plenty of decent looking flankers, Teal & Gilbee solid picks and are the types who could defy their lowish standing. Verall is higher than most but his leap is very good for a heavy set ruck, Campbell slipping under the radar a bit.
51. Anthony Munkara
52. James Van Es
53. Jayden Davey
54. Archie Lovelock
55. Harvey Gallagher
56. Marlin Corbett
57. Phoenix Foster
58. Seth Campbell
59. Cooper Vickery
60. Blake Drury
It's actually very hard to split this group from the 40-50 bracket, it's really a raffle from here. Van Es looks like a Talia type & could easily go higher, plenty of crafty small forwards to choose from, Harvey Gallagher another in the frame & he may get picked up earlier if he's seen as a defender. Corbett features due to his low trajectory bullet like kicking, Foster is one Richmond could seriously consider, very reliable in front of goal & ousts Scully for a spot in the top 60. I thought I'd also mention Casey Voss, 92% DE in the SANFL, probably lacking some athleticism but those numbers are crazy good.
The reality with this year's draft is many will miss out, I suspect there will be some disappointment after the draft but there's always the state leagues to offer up a second chance. Joshua Browne is one who forced his way onto the West Coast list last year, nothing concrete as yet but he's moving closer to a permanent berth.
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Good work Bullus, thanks for your efforts and thoughts.
No doubt there’ll be some difference of opinions but it’s good to see you put yours out there. For those of us with little idea of a lot of the prospects it gives us some insight.
Clubs will have there own thoughts and needs and there are always bolters and sliders. But I for one like to read opinions of PRE posters. So to all of you, thanks for taking the time and putting in the effort
No doubt there’ll be some difference of opinions but it’s good to see you put yours out there. For those of us with little idea of a lot of the prospects it gives us some insight.
Clubs will have there own thoughts and needs and there are always bolters and sliders. But I for one like to read opinions of PRE posters. So to all of you, thanks for taking the time and putting in the effort
Nice work bully were does Will Verrall go you reckon could be another one at our selection .
I really like him, I was actually surprised at his athleticism for a thick set ruck, could be a very astute pick in the third round.
Even though the club has very late picks, seems they’re going to have a bit to think about on the night.
At the moment a few names are consistently coming up as possibilities: Scully, Lemmey, Teal most notably. Now, there appears a small chance Dowling and McCallum might slide. Campbell ?
If that’s the case then the club’s got a bit to decide on: best current player v critical KPF need that might take a while to develop.
For me, if the club decides critical KPF need as the priority it’s Lemmey over Scully for mine. Scully looks so-so to me and if he is gonna be any good, it’s gonna be at least 4 years away I think, whereas if Lemmey can become a bit more competitive, then his skill set has him contributing sooner and with deeper impact.
If it’s any of the others, it’s Dowling and Teal for me. I don’t really rate McCallum (very rough by foot like his dad) and Campbell is meh. Nothing special.
If it’s best available then it’s Dowling, Teal, Lemmey in that order for me.
At the moment a few names are consistently coming up as possibilities: Scully, Lemmey, Teal most notably. Now, there appears a small chance Dowling and McCallum might slide. Campbell ?
If that’s the case then the club’s got a bit to decide on: best current player v critical KPF need that might take a while to develop.
For me, if the club decides critical KPF need as the priority it’s Lemmey over Scully for mine. Scully looks so-so to me and if he is gonna be any good, it’s gonna be at least 4 years away I think, whereas if Lemmey can become a bit more competitive, then his skill set has him contributing sooner and with deeper impact.
If it’s any of the others, it’s Dowling and Teal for me. I don’t really rate McCallum (very rough by foot like his dad) and Campbell is meh. Nothing special.
If it’s best available then it’s Dowling, Teal, Lemmey in that order for me.
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Doubt he’ll be there. Nor Lemmey for that matter actually.
On Lemmey, whilst I’d roll the dice, I’m not sure the club itself will if he were to be around. The absolute number one priority they have, for which there is no compromise, is that you have to be a “competitor”. People have different interpretations of “competitiveness” but I just get the feeling the queries around Lemmey on that front might have us not being all that interested anyway, and having others ahead of him in our range.
I don’t, but I wouldn’t be surprised if they had Scully rated ahead of Lemmey.
Take it to the bank we pick someone that hasnt featured in any phantom in the land
Watched McCallum in a game for Clarence this year. Would have had 20 kicks, but only about 5 hit the target. Moves well, takes a nice grab but a complete butcher by foot
