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2022 Draft Thread

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Who is the junior Shifter on Fox footy? Confirmed he is clueless when he said the Harvey family are terrific people.
Michael Ablett - nephew of Gary Ablett Snr, Geoff Ablett, Kevin Ablett and cousin of Gary Ablett Jnr.
Got on North's list around 2000, played for Frankston though in the VFL.
Moved into AFL National Talent Manager after a few years there.
 
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WA component off the list after losing Parker and Stack back to 8 -

Kamdyn McIntosh
Liam Baker
Shai Bolton
Marlion Pickett
Nathan Broad
Ben Miller
Kaleb Smith
Steely Green

Not surprisingly, they're all tough nuts who don't back down #BashBrothers :bash
 
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daniel30

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Hmmm, interesting picks, certainly not how I expected things to pan out but good luck to Steely & Caleb.

To be honest, we should have got a project tall Foster was there and Scully, in my opinion what options is there in the rookie draft bully ?.
 
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bullus_hit

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Kind of how I expected things to go, from 40 onwards a bit of a raffle, 3 players left in my top 40 - Hagen, Gilbey & Magor. I would rookie these guys, I think they represent decent value. No big surprises apart from Sydney's chicanery.


2022 Draft Top 60

1. Will Ashcroft (2)
2. Aaron Cadman (1)
3. Harry Sheezel (3)
4. George Wardlaw (4)
5. Matteas Phillipou (10)
6. Elijah Tsatas (5)
7. Matt Jefferson (15)
8. Elijah Hewett (14)
9. Cam McKenzie (7)
10. Jhye Clark (8)


These are the players who I believe could headline the draft class in 4 years. There's a bit of risk with this grouping, you always run the gauntlet when you pick players with injury history (see Wardlaw) & also run the risk of coming up empty handed once you start recruiting key position prospects. The evenness of this draft makes these gambles a bit more palatable however, plenty of risk attached to Sheezel but the upside warrants the outlay. Hewett strikes me as a great value bet, there's something about his swagger that screams top 10 talent & if he slides outside the first half dozen then it would appear on the surface to be a be a very healthy top tier. Probably the biggest surprise for many is Tsatas climbing up the charts, I've decided to roll with him as the second best prospect after some careful consideration, the reasons for this boil down to the fact his contested game is far more evolved than the raw numbers would suggest. He does collect a lot of outside ball but his clearance numbers are comparable to many of the other mids featured in the top echelon. His two way running gives him the edge over players like Hewett. The fact he's a pro athlete also means he'll be good to go from day one. Wardlaw would be higher if not for the soft tissue injuries & mediocre kicking & Sheezel probably gets the award for the riskiest of all the top 5. I'm a fan of Sheezel by the way, I just feel he needs a good home to nurture his obvious talents & that would appear unlikely.

11. Lachie Cowan (30)
12. Reuben Ginbey (9)
13. Bailey Humphrey (6)
14. Ollie Hollands (11)
15. Jedd Busslinger (12)
16. Ollie Hotton (35)
17. Jacob Konstanty (20)
18. Harry Barnett (23)
19. Henry Hustwaite (37)
20. Brayden George (26)

All these players have the tools to very good AFL footballers, not necessarily headline acts but certainly core footballers who will provide a fresh injection of talent. I wouldn't normally have a ruck this high but Barnett looks to be versatile enough to spend some minutes in the forward line. Humphrey doesn't do it for me like he does with some others, I think it's the kicking that nudges him out of top 10 calculations. Busslinger is coming back from shoulder surgery so this must be factored into the equation, likewise George who is talented but tarnished by an ACL injury. Cowan comes in at 11 & that seems fair weight for the best rebounder in the draft. The fact he can also roll through the midfield also adds to his value. I see him in a similar light to Zach Williams when he was playing well for GWS, not so much nowadays. Ginbey still worries me somewhat but I'll slot him in at 12 based on some outstanding athletic capabilities. I don't think he's a guaranteed midfield starter, I think his WAFL form has brought him back to earth but there are some very appealing traits, I can definitely see the attraction.

21. Charlie Clarke (24)
22. Isaac Keeler (44)
23. Edward Allan (19)
24. Coby Burgiel (29)
25. Jaxon Binns (32)
26. Harry Lemmey (47)
27. Josh Weddle (18)
28. Tom McCallum (36)
29. Jakob Ryan (28)
30. Darcy Jones (21)

All these players have the ability to play AFL, some like Weddle & Binns probably don't have monster upsides but they would also appear to be legitimate best 22 candidates. Keeler probably goes later, that's the word on the street. One SA watcher who has seen a fair bit of him has gone completely cold & basically said he's a Vickery clone, I reckon that's a bit harsh but it probably accounts for his apparent fall from grace. I've bumped Lemmey up the charts because the upside is huge, I think people are too dismissive of the fact he had covid this year, for me it now becomes a buying opportunity and if he lands at Punt Road I'll be stoked. McCallum slipping under the radar a bit, I think all the Tassie boys cop a raw deal in these mock drafts, I personally put him neck & neck with Weddle at this particular juncture.

31. Jed Hagen
32. Max Gruzewski (22)
33. Lewis Hayes (25)
34. Billy Dowling (43)
35. Jaspa Fletcher (11)
36. Max Michalanney (17)
37. Harry Rowston (16)
38. Sam Gilbey
39. Alwyn Davey Jnr. (45)
40. Jaiden Magor

This group carries some risk & I expect a handful of busts but there's plenty of positives to work with. Gruzewski has tons of talent but he still needs to establish a permanent home on the field, I think he's best suited to defence but I'm betting someone will size him up as a potential forward. Hayes collapsed at the combine so I'm putting him in the high risk basket. Dowling is a ball magnet, some ridiculous numbers in the SANFL u/18s, probably more a Grigg style accumulator rather than a coal face extractor but his leadership qualities appeal & so does his ability to run opponents off their feet. Binns is another running machine who should carve out an AFL career & Gilbey is one of those value defenders who could easily become a permanent fixture in an AFL side.

41. Ethan Phillips
42. Mitch Szybkowski
43. Will Verall
44. Cooper Harvey (56)
45. Nick Sadler
46. Max Knobel (43)
47. Ted Clohesy
48. Jason Gilbee
49. Luke Teal
50. Noah Long (58)

Quite a bit of speculation with this group, many will miss out given there will only be 45 selections apparently. With the exception of Phillips I'd say the others will need a few years in the system. Knobel will take time but he has shown some forward potential which adds to his value. Plenty of decent looking flankers, Teal & Gilbee solid picks and are the types who could defy their lowish standing. Verall is higher than most but his leap is very good for a heavy set ruck, Campbell slipping under the radar a bit.

51. Anthony Munkara
52. James Van Es (31)
53. Jayden Davey (54)
54. Archie Lovelock
55. Harvey Gallagher (39)
56. Marlin Corbett
57. Phoenix Foster (52)
58. Seth Campbell
59. Cooper Vickery (29)
60. Blake Drury

It's actually very hard to split this group from the 40-50 bracket, it's really a raffle from here. Van Es looks like a Talia type & could easily go higher, plenty of crafty small forwards to choose from, Harvey Gallagher another in the frame & he may get picked up earlier if he's seen as a defender. Corbett features due to his low trajectory bullet like kicking, Madden a project of sorts but he is ultra competitive like Mummy. Foster is one Richmond could seriously consider, very reliable in front of goal & ousts Scully for a spot in the top 60. I thought I'd also mention Casey Voss, 92% DE in the SANFL, probably lacking some athleticism but those numbers are crazy good.

The reality with this year's draft is many will miss out, I suspect there will be some disappointment after the draft but there's always the state leagues to offer up a second chance. Joshua Browne is one who forced his way onto the West Coast list last year, nothing concrete as yet but he's moving closer to a permanent berth.
 
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bullus_hit

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To be honest, we should have got a project tall Foster was there and Scully, in my opinion what options is there in the rookie draft bully ?.
The list is up, will need to think carefully about this, still some decent talent left.
 
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Pick 49 - Kaleb Smith

Best Richmond Player Pick 49 - Nick Daffy - 166 games, 182 votes, B&F 1998.
Best AFL Players Pick 49 - Lachie Hunter, Jarrad Schofield, Simon Garlick, Ronnie Burns, Shane Wakelin, Bailey Scott


Pick 55 - Steely Green - now this is the pick :love:

Best Richmond Player Pick 55 - Chris Newman - 268 games, 56 goals
Richmond other picks - Steven McKee - 84 games, Marc Dragicevic - 48 games
Best AFL Players Pick 55- Robbie Gray, Sam Fisher, Ryan Crowley, Brad Miller (Melb), Matthew Capuano, Orazzzziiiiioooo, Sam Collins, Darren Jarman (Long story he got originally drafted to Melb, then Brisbane concessional traded to the Hawks, but was a pick 55 for the Dees first in 1986).
 
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I don’t mind drafting from WA. We do a lot better from there than SA; Shedda and Fridge notwithstanding.

Totally agree. WA players seem to be much better suited to our pressure gameplan, but what is interesting is that our gameplan is very different to what you see played at WAFL level.

The WAFL is very open, fast, pressure free football often played in the dry which puts a premium on runners who can read the play over players with great skills. These type of players suit us for our pressure gameplan because they have the ability to make contests in numbers, and do it for extended periods of time. Skills are not as important as making contests and defensively covering the ground. Once we teach them that, they fit right in.

Sure, you have to have top end talent out there to start with, but we have done so well using these guys to fill out our list.

It is clearly no coincidence that we used our late picks tonight on WA players.
 
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Kind of how I expected things to go, from 40 onwards a bit of a raffle, 3 players left in my top 40 - Hagen, Gilbey & Magor. I would rookie these guys, I think they represent decent value. No big surprises apart from Sydney's chicanery.


2022 Draft Top 60

1. Will Ashcroft (2)
2. Aaron Cadman (1)
3. Harry Sheezel (3)
4. George Wardlaw (4)
5. Matteas Phillipou (10)
6. Elijah Tsatas (5)
7. Matt Jefferson (15)
8. Elijah Hewett (14)
9. Cam McKenzie (7)
10. Jhye Clark (8)


These are the players who I believe could headline the draft class in 4 years. There's a bit of risk with this grouping, you always run the gauntlet when you pick players with injury history (see Wardlaw) & also run the risk of coming up empty handed once you start recruiting key position prospects. The evenness of this draft makes these gambles a bit more palatable however, plenty of risk attached to Sheezel but the upside warrants the outlay. Hewett strikes me as a great value bet, there's something about his swagger that screams top 10 talent & if he slides outside the first half dozen then it would appear on the surface to be a be a very healthy top tier. Probably the biggest surprise for many is Tsatas climbing up the charts, I've decided to roll with him as the second best prospect after some careful consideration, the reasons for this boil down to the fact his contested game is far more evolved than the raw numbers would suggest. He does collect a lot of outside ball but his clearance numbers are comparable to many of the other mids featured in the top echelon. His two way running gives him the edge over players like Hewett. The fact he's a pro athlete also means he'll be good to go from day one. Wardlaw would be higher if not for the soft tissue injuries & mediocre kicking & Sheezel probably gets the award for the riskiest of all the top 5. I'm a fan of Sheezel by the way, I just feel he needs a good home to nurture his obvious talents & that would appear unlikely.

11. Lachie Cowan (30)
12. Reuben Ginbey (9)
13. Bailey Humphrey (6)
14. Ollie Hollands (11)
15. Jedd Busslinger (12)
16. Ollie Hotton (35)
17. Jacob Konstanty (20)
18. Harry Barnett (23)
19. Henry Hustwaite (37)
20. Brayden George (26)

All these players have the tools to very good AFL footballers, not necessarily headline acts but certainly core footballers who will provide a fresh injection of talent. I wouldn't normally have a ruck this high but Barnett looks to be versatile enough to spend some minutes in the forward line. Humphrey doesn't do it for me like he does with some others, I think it's the kicking that nudges him out of top 10 calculations. Busslinger is coming back from shoulder surgery so this must be factored into the equation, likewise George who is talented but tarnished by an ACL injury. Cowan comes in at 11 & that seems fair weight for the best rebounder in the draft. The fact he can also roll through the midfield also adds to his value. I see him in a similar light to Zach Williams when he was playing well for GWS, not so much nowadays. Ginbey still worries me somewhat but I'll slot him in at 12 based on some outstanding athletic capabilities. I don't think he's a guaranteed midfield starter, I think his WAFL form has brought him back to earth but there are some very appealing traits, I can definitely see the attraction.

21. Charlie Clarke (24)
22. Isaac Keeler (44)
23. Edward Allan (19)
24. Coby Burgiel (29)
25. Jaxon Binns (32)
26. Harry Lemmey (44)
27. Josh Weddle (18)
28. Tom McCallum (36)
29. Jakob Ryan (28)
30. Darcy Jones (21)

All these players have the ability to play AFL, some like Weddle & Binns probably don't have monster upsides but they would also appear to be legitimate best 22 candidates. Keeler probably goes later, that's the word on the street. One SA watcher who has seen a fair bit of him has gone completely cold & basically said he's a Vickery clone, I reckon that's a bit harsh but it probably accounts for his apparent fall from grace. I've bumped Lemmey up the charts because the upside is huge, I think people are too dismissive of the fact he had covid this year, for me it now becomes a buying opportunity and if he lands at Punt Road I'll be stoked. McCallum slipping under the radar a bit, I think all the Tassie boys cop a raw deal in these mock drafts, I personally put him neck & neck with Weddle at this particular juncture.

31. Jed Hagen
32. Max Gruzewski (22)
33. Lewis Hayes (25)
34. Billy Dowling (43)
35. Jaspa Fletcher (11)
36. Max Michalanney (17)
37. Harry Rowston (16)
38. Sam Gilbey
39. Alwyn Davey Jnr. (45)
40. Jaiden Magor

This group carries some risk & I expect a handful of busts but there's plenty of positives to work with. Gruzewski has tons of talent but he still needs to establish a permanent home on the field, I think he's best suited to defence but I'm betting someone will size him up as a potential forward. Hayes collapsed at the combine so I'm putting him in the high risk basket. Dowling is a ball magnet, some ridiculous numbers in the SANFL u/18s, probably more a Grigg style accumulator rather than a coal face extractor but his leadership qualities appeal & so does his ability to run opponents off their feet. Binns is another running machine who should carve out an AFL career & Gilbey is one of those value defenders who could easily become a permanent fixture in an AFL side.

41. Ethan Phillips
42. Mitch Szybkowski
43. Will Verall
44. Cooper Harvey (56)
45. Nick Sadler
46. Max Knobel (43)
47. Ted Clohesy
48. Jason Gilbee
49. Luke Teal
50. Noah Long

Quite a bit of speculation with this group, many will miss out given there will only be 45 selections apparently. With the exception of Phillips I'd say the others will need a few years in the system. Knobel will take time but he has shown some forward potential which adds to his value. Plenty of decent looking flankers, Teal & Gilbee solid picks and are the types who could defy their lowish standing. Verall is higher than most but his leap is very good for a heavy set ruck, Campbell slipping under the radar a bit.

51. Anthony Munkara
52. James Van Es (31)
53. Jayden Davey (54)
54. Archie Lovelock
55. Harvey Gallagher (39)
56. Marlin Corbett
57. Phoenix Foster (52)
58. Seth Campbell
59. Cooper Vickery (29)
60. Blake Drury

It's actually very hard to split this group from the 40-50 bracket, it's really a raffle from here. Van Es looks like a Talia type & could easily go higher, plenty of crafty small forwards to choose from, Harvey Gallagher another in the frame & he may get picked up earlier if he's seen as a defender. Corbett features due to his low trajectory bullet like kicking, Madden a project of sorts but he is ultra competitive like Mummy. Foster is one Richmond could seriously consider, very reliable in front of goal & ousts Scully for a spot in the top 60. I thought I'd also mention Casey Voss, 92% DE in the SANFL, probably lacking some athleticism but those numbers are crazy good.

The reality with this year's draft is many will miss out, I suspect there will be some disappointment after the draft but there's always the state leagues to offer up a second chance. Joshua Browne is one who forced his way onto the West Coast list last year, nothing concrete as yet but he's moving closer to a permanent berth.
Noah Long was drafted after our picks
 

bullus_hit

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Pretty sure we have 3 spots , Most likely will use 2 and save 1 for the mid season draft

which KPF remain that may suit
The cupboard is bare Turk, they're all gone as far as I can see.

Knobel (43)
Keeler (44)
Lemmey (47)
Scully (52)
Foster (57)

I was spot on about the depth, it was certainly there, the last line of defence was Foster & he lasted but we didn't bite. There's Verrall I suppose, but that would be ruck insurance for the most part.
 

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The cupboard is bare Turk, they're all gone as far as I can see.

Knobel (43)
Keeler (44)
Lemmey (47)
Scully (52)
Foster (57)

I was spot on about the depth, it was certainly there, the last line of defence was Foster & he lasted but we didn't bite. There's Verrall I suppose, but that would be ruck insurance for the most part.
Jovan Petric
Jasper Scaife
Oliver Northam
Will Elliot

Koby Cockshel was a player that was looking like developing 12 months ago but must have really dropped off
 

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Jovan Petric
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Oliver Northam
Will Elliot

Koby Cockshel was a player that was looking like developing 12 months ago but must have really dropped off
Northam I think you want to develop into a ruck, probably needs another 3cm. It's pretty hard to land a winner in the rookie draft, Chol is a rarity, I can't really think of too many others who have made the grade. I would hazard a guess that 90% have come from the national draft, by most measures, 60 goal forwards almost exclusively but even 40 goal players few and far between as rookies. I think we need to focus on best available at this stage, quite a few left with AFL qualities. Turning to my top 40 list, I don't think we need more back flankers so rule out Hagen & Gilbey. Magor is an x-factor type so keep him in the frame. Too late for Clohesy, he's Geelong bound now, I think I take Mitch Szybkowski with what's remaining, can't hurt to get another midfielder in & I think Verrall would be a decent project ruck, definitely plenty of athleticism for the role.
 
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Speed kills. And run. It was the foundation of our recent premierships. Both selections true to form.

National combine results:

Agility

7.072sec – Darcy Jones (WA)
8.182sec – Jaxon Binns (VIC C)
8.217sec – Elijah Hewett (WA)
8.247sec – Steely Green (WA)

2km Time Trial
5min 54sec – Ollie Hollands (VIC C)

5min 54sec – Jason Gillbee (ALLIES)
6min 00sec – Jaxon Binns (VIC C)
6min 03sec – Josh Weddle (VIC M)
6min 15sec – Reuben Ginbey (WA)
6min 16sec – Jakob Ryan (SA)
6min 17sec – Steely Green (WA)

WA State combine results:

20m sprint
Kaleb Smith (East Fremantle): 2.881 seconds

Baxter Philip (Perth): 2.911
Griff Julian (West Perth): 2.994

Agility
Toby McQuilkin (South Fremantle): 7.8 seconds
Baxter Philip (Perth): 7.871
Kaleb Smith (East Fremantle): 8.052
Would be interested in Steely Green,s 20m sprint.
 

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So I'm just pondering our situation on weight, I think it's still a very solid outcome, Taranto, Hopper, Green & Smith seems like a solid haul, still missing some tall timber so it's over to Blair now, can't get one next year unless there's some sliders. For what it's worth I would have taken Hewett/Cowan/Keeler with the draft picks, I think as a haul that taps into A grade territory across the board. As to whether that compensates for two established mids, only time will tell I suppose. Premiership 14 needs to be delivered in the next 2-3 years.
 
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Bully Bradtke should come into calculations for us now, I reckon as a rookie or Tyler Keitel as someone mentioned.