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Indigenous Voice Yes or No?
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Rather ironic that you decry all politicians then praise 1 politician that exemplifies what you claim to hate about politicians
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Then why does everything you say come from a conservative/right wing agenda?
I really don't understand people who hold views which clearly align with one strand of politics yet claim they are somehow not of a particular political persuasion.
FFS stand up for what you believe in.
I'm proud to be a leftie, an anarchist, a unionist etc., and also proud to be a Richmond supporter. See no need to try and hide my opinions.
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The poor dahlings
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Public servants offered five days of paid leave to grieve Voice result
Leaders in the public sector this week received an email telling them they could grant workers special leave as well as sick leave.
Have just a modicum of class.The poor dahlings
Public servants offered five days of paid leave to grieve Voice result
Leaders in the public sector this week received an email telling them they could grant workers special leave as well as sick leave.
"Public servants in Queensland have been offered five days of paid leave if they are suffering from psychological distress following the failed Voice referendum.
Leaders in the public sector this week received an email telling them they could grant workers special leave as well as sick leave."
That deserves all the ridicule it hopefully gets. Time off after the result of a referendum? No wonder the world is *smile*.
The fanning of the flames of hate and racism aren't going to stop anytime soon by the looks of it.
Murdoch and the right will keep peddling half-truths and spin to sink the boots in, and plenty of Aussies, as here, will be more than willing to lap it up. Anyone with some critical thinking ability, a kind heart, a fair go, some empathy, might say to themselves, this is a news corp piece, maybe its not altogether accurate? But no, far too much to ask.
The special discretionary leave is not new, its been around since the mid 2010s, its basically leave for unforseen circumstances, it may or may not be paid. Aboriginal people are hurting badly, I'm hurting badly and I'm not even black. The directive that the Courier Mail got hold of was basically saying this could well fit the criteria for it, it is not new leave. It also mentions specifically that Aboriginal employees may need it. It doesn't specifically mention non-indigenous people won't be eligible, but really, I for one can imagine a few will also be devastated. I know a few Aboriginal and non-Aboriginal people who are devastated, none of them have taken time off work but I reckon a day or 2 would be a good thing. So many of us seem to have no understanding of what racism is, how it works and the impacts it has. And also, for all the alleged advancements, do we actually care about mental health?
The headline in particular, and also the story, make it sound like all Qld public servants will get 5 days off whether they need it or not. In reality, some Aboriginal employees may be struggling and may apply for some leave under a particular category that already exists, and up to 5 days.
We don't really care about racism. We refuse to or don't see it when its right there in front of us, if we do see it we say 'whats the big deal? get on with it'. Big sections of the media will promote it, and its like we're going backwards fast in terms of empathy and understanding and compassion. Race has been politicised. The evil genie is well and truly out of the bottle. Hopefully its a phase, a swing of the pendulum, but it could well be the new normal.
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I reached out to the couple of Indigenous Australians I call good friends. They didn't reply until Saturday evening. Both shattered and the sense of abandonment in their community is real. Devastated is probably how I'd describe it.
Much like the Adam Goodes case, racial abuse is something the only the recipient can declare, not the perpetrator. The vast vast majority of Indigenous Australians feel the No campaign was racist in it's nature and the result can only be seen as white Australia abandoning the concept of Reconciliation. Basically we don't give two *smile* about our Indigenous Australians. It doesn't matter if you voted No because you think they get enough, you think the change to the constitution was too risky, or you thought you didn't have enough details, the end result is an abandonment of our Indigenous Australians. A rejection to their request to be listened too.
Taking some time off to deal with that rejection of your race isn't at all farfetched.
If you can't understand how some indigenous people's lives have been affected by the result of the referendum, then you really don't know that you were voting on.
It was nasty enough to vote no.
Absolutely classless to then denigrate the people who have been shattered because of it.
This has seriously incensed me almost more than the no vote.
You have a right to vote however you want, even if it's the option that causes harm.
To then get offended after people try to deal with the ramifications of that harm, and claim some sort of ownership over how those people are allowed to suffer ... I mean how horrible are you?
You have a right to vote however you want, even if it's the option that causes harm.
To then get offended after people try to deal with the ramifications of that harm, and claim some sort of ownership over how those people are allowed to suffer ... I mean how horrible are you?
Why would the NO voterscare about them after the vote when they never cared about them before?
The vote showed many Aust have little interest in the plight of the indigenous. Unless of course they perceive there is some sort of advantage being provided to the indigenous. Then they are definitely interested.
Why wouldn't you want to be indigenous with all the bloody associated benefits?!
The vote showed many Aust have little interest in the plight of the indigenous. Unless of course they perceive there is some sort of advantage being provided to the indigenous. Then they are definitely interested.
Why wouldn't you want to be indigenous with all the bloody associated benefits?!
Utter nonsense. I’m well aware compassionate/discretionary leave isn’t new. It was brought up in the context of losing the referendum and needing time off to deal with it. How ridiculous the world has become. I guess running a recruitment company has made me cynical about time off and the *smile* reasons people want it more and more.
And just for clarity, I voted yes.
And just for clarity, I voted yes.
So comparing someone taking a "sickie" to the reaction to the referendum - sounds about right!
In what way does it “sound about right”? Not sure what you’re insinuating.
Strong work ethics are tough to find these days e.g. people specifically looking for ‘hybrid‘ jobs so they can look after their “fur-babies”.
They wonder why No bolted in. Here is another reason Albo & Indigenous retinue got it horribly wrong.
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Grampians National Park climbers threatened with $346,000 fine
Rock climbers are being threatened with $346,000 fines for climbing at one of Australia' most iconic destinations under cultural heritage laws.
You're right.They wonder why No bolted in. Here is another reason Albo & Indigenous retinue got it horribly wrong.
Grampians National Park climbers threatened with $346,000 fine
Rock climbers are being threatened with $346,000 fines for climbing at one of Australia' most iconic destinations under cultural heritage laws.
The fact that anyone thinks this has anything to do with the voice, even tangentially, is why No won.
But, 'stupid people voted no' is a strange message for you to put up now.
You insunuated that people wanting time-off for distress caused from the vote was similar to some of the other "reasons" people took time-off. ie they were essentially taking the *smile*.
Interesting attitude for a recruitment firm to take, particularly in a knowledge economy where skilled workers are in short supply.
