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2022 Draft Thread
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Trading and helping your direct opponent.
Great stuff.
Huggins Ellis Dow Collier dawkins and now trading to help Geelong
I hope someone buys you some new material for Christmas, you have certainly worn out these old gripes.
I’m back to thinking you are a weaponised algorithm designed to break our collective spirit to pave the way for a Chinese invasion zips
Tipping he'll get taken as it's been a pretty good year for the Teals.
We already have a Green, now a Teal would fit perfectly.Higgins' debut season was better than Holmes', and their 2nd seasons were about even before his brain issues were identified. and Higgins 2022 was better than Holmes.
But one is a bust and 1 is an inspired pick.
Holmes played one TAC game and looks a super AFL player with a higher ceiling, Higgins may have peaked and was Morrish medal winner who was expected to be taken in the first round. Holmes was an inspired pick that nobody saw coming. And Bullus has defended the Higgins picks as have I.
Yeah you simply have to tips your lids to Stephen Wells with that pick.
Man's a genius.
Man's a genius.
My post was more a comment on some of the negative views of Higgins on here.
This pick I'm all for, Teal or Gilbey would be excellent selections at this point.
Teal at 49, Gilbey at 38 but these two difficult to split, Teal has a far greater body of work, Gilbey better performed but smaller sample size due to injury. Very happy with either to be honest.
2022 Draft Top 60
1. Will Ashcroft (2)
2. Aaron Cadman (1)
3. Harry Sheezel (3)
4. George Wardlaw (4)
5. Matteas Phillipou (10)
6. Elijah Tsatas (5)
7. Matt Jefferson (15)
8. Elijah Hewett (14)
9. Cam McKenzie (7)
10. Jhye Clark (8)
These are the players who I believe could headline the draft class in 4 years. There's a bit of risk with this grouping, you always run the gauntlet when you pick players with injury history (see Wardlaw) & also run the risk of coming up empty handed once you start recruiting key position prospects. The evenness of this draft makes these gambles a bit more palatable however, plenty of risk attached to Sheezel but the upside warrants the outlay. Hewett strikes me as a great value bet, there's something about his swagger that screams top 10 talent & if he slides outside the first half dozen then it would appear on the surface to be a be a very healthy top tier. Probably the biggest surprise for many is Tsatas climbing up the charts, I've decided to roll with him as the second best prospect after some careful consideration, the reasons for this boil down to the fact his contested game is far more evolved than the raw numbers would suggest. He does collect a lot of outside ball but his clearance numbers are comparable to many of the other mids featured in the top echelon. His two way running gives him the edge over players like Hewett. The fact he's a pro athlete also means he'll be good to go from day one. Wardlaw would be higher if not for the soft tissue injuries & mediocre kicking & Sheezel probably gets the award for the riskiest of all the top 5. I'm a fan of Sheezel by the way, I just feel he needs a good home to nurture his obvious talents & that would appear unlikely.
11. Lachie Cowan (30)
12. Reuben Ginbey (9)
13. Bailey Humphrey (6)
14. Ollie Hollands (11)
15. Jedd Busslinger (12)
16. Ollie Hotton (35)
17. Jacob Konstanty (20)
18. Harry Barnett (23)
19. Henry Hustwaite (37)
20. Brayden George (26)
All these players have the tools to very good AFL footballers, not necessarily headline acts but certainly core footballers who will provide a fresh injection of talent. I wouldn't normally have a ruck this high but Barnett looks to be versatile enough to spend some minutes in the forward line. Humphrey doesn't do it for me like he does with some others, I think it's the kicking that nudges him out of top 10 calculations. Busslinger is coming back from shoulder surgery so this must be factored into the equation, likewise George who is talented but tarnished by an ACL injury. Cowan comes in at 11 & that seems fair weight for the best rebounder in the draft. The fact he can also roll through the midfield also adds to his value. I see him in a similar light to Zach Williams when he was playing well for GWS, not so much nowadays. Ginbey still worries me somewhat but I'll slot him in at 12 based on some outstanding athletic capabilities. I don't think he's a guaranteed midfield starter, I think his WAFL form has brought him back to earth but there are some very appealing traits, I can definitely see the attraction.
21. Charlie Clarke (24)
22. Isaac Keeler (44)
23. Edward Allan (19)
24. Coby Burgiel (29)
25. Jaxon Binns (32)
26. Harry Lemmey (47)
27. Josh Weddle (18)
28. Tom McCallum (36)
29. Jakob Ryan (28)
30. Darcy Jones (21)
All these players have the ability to play AFL, some like Weddle & Binns probably don't have monster upsides but they would also appear to be legitimate best 22 candidates. Keeler probably goes later, that's the word on the street. One SA watcher who has seen a fair bit of him has gone completely cold & basically said he's a Vickery clone, I reckon that's a bit harsh but it probably accounts for his apparent fall from grace. I've bumped Lemmey up the charts because the upside is huge, I think people are too dismissive of the fact he had covid this year, for me it now becomes a buying opportunity and if he lands at Punt Road I'll be stoked. McCallum slipping under the radar a bit, I think all the Tassie boys cop a raw deal in these mock drafts, I personally put him neck & neck with Weddle at this particular juncture.
31. Jed Hagen
32. Max Gruzewski (22)
33. Lewis Hayes (25)
34. Billy Dowling (43)
35. Jaspa Fletcher (11)
36. Max Michalanney (17)
37. Harry Rowston (16)
38. Sam Gilbey
39. Alwyn Davey Jnr. (45)
40. Jaiden Magor (rookie)
This group carries some risk & I expect a handful of busts but there's plenty of positives to work with. Gruzewski has tons of talent but he still needs to establish a permanent home on the field, I think he's best suited to defence but I'm betting someone will size him up as a potential forward. Hayes collapsed at the combine so I'm putting him in the high risk basket. Dowling is a ball magnet, some ridiculous numbers in the SANFL u/18s, probably more a Grigg style accumulator rather than a coal face extractor but his leadership qualities appeal & so does his ability to run opponents off their feet. Binns is another running machine who should carve out an AFL career & Gilbey is one of those value defenders who could easily become a permanent fixture in an AFL side.
41. Ethan Phillips
42. Mitch Szybkowski
43. Will Verall (rookie)
44. Cooper Harvey (56)
45. Nick Sadler
46. Max Knobel (43)
47. Ted Clohesy (pre listed rookie)
48. Jason Gilbee (pre listed rookie)
49. Luke Teal
50. Noah Long (58)
Quite a bit of speculation with this group, many will miss out given there will only be 45 selections apparently. With the exception of Phillips I'd say the others will need a few years in the system. Knobel will take time but he has shown some forward potential which adds to his value. Plenty of decent looking flankers, Teal & Gilbee solid picks and are the types who could defy their lowish standing. Verall is higher than most but his leap is very good for a heavy set ruck, Campbell slipping under the radar a bit.
51. Anthony Munkara (Pre listed rookie)
52. James Van Es (31)
53. Jayden Davey (54)
54. Archie Lovelock
55. Harvey Gallagher (39)
56. Marlin Corbett
57. Phoenix Foster (52)
58. Seth Campbell (rookie)
59. Cooper Vickery (29)
60. Blake Drury (rookie)
It's actually very hard to split this group from the 40-50 bracket, it's really a raffle from here. Van Es looks like a Talia type & could easily go higher, plenty of crafty small forwards to choose from, Harvey Gallagher another in the frame & he may get picked up earlier if he's seen as a defender. Corbett features due to his low trajectory bullet like kicking, Madden a project of sorts but he is ultra competitive like Mummy. Foster is one Richmond could seriously consider, very reliable in front of goal & ousts Scully for a spot in the top 60. I thought I'd also mention Casey Voss, 92% DE in the SANFL, probably lacking some athleticism but those numbers are crazy good.
The reality with this year's draft is many will miss out, I suspect there will be some disappointment after the draft but there's always the state leagues to offer up a second chance. Joshua Browne is one who forced his way onto the West Coast list last year, nothing concrete as yet but he's moving closer to a permanent berth.
So you had him rated higher than Kaleb Smith , Seth Campbell & Steely Green
would be our highest rated player by you.
Call it the Grimes premium but yes, at 190cm he has versatility that could make him a suitable candidate for the third tall role, a very good late selection in my opinion.
Is that a role that a Bauer, Bradtke or Young might also be able to take on?
I think Tylar Young is a candidate, Bauer & Bradtke probably forwards or bust in all likelihood. Teal looks a natural in defence, did ok against Sheezel and has decent offensive ability. I prefer him to Bradtke as I believe his odds of success much better, his position type has a very good strike rate deep in the draft, Grimes himself earnt a jumper off the back of a late call-up and do or die training campaign, history on Teal's side I believe.
Will become the same size as Tom Stewart
Looks like he can read the ball well and mark and has a nice right foot
Looks like he can read the ball well and mark and has a nice right foot
