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Losing interest ?

I've maintained a long-standing membership but I haven't been to a game since the Grand Final in 2019, It is a rich tapestry of reasons why.

I think tribalism is disappearing due to corporate seating arrangements.
High definition tv and my wood heater.
Scheduling matches where you drive home in the dark is offputting.
No reserves before the main game.
Excessive PA announcements.
Bewildering umpiring of an ever-changing rules landscape.
Ridiculously high salaries of players while battlers throw in their hard-earned.
Many work early on Friday, Saturday, and Monday mornings.
Apathy and lethargy.


and Covid.

My passion is still there for the Tiges but not to the same extent. That is the problem.

Pretty much agree with all of this....especially the ever changing rules. I used to know what was happening on a footy field....well most of the time I thought......now I wouldn’t have a clue most of them time......holding the ball....incorrect disposal....no prior....hand in the back....took out his legs.....etc...ect. I find you can’t understand the rules of the game you have invested years in following. AND.....neither can the umpires

Meanwhile, the AFL convince themselves that business success ~TV ratings and revenue~ Means the game has never been better.

They are right about one thing though. There is competition like never before. Kids have other options

By commercialising the game they have grown their revenues but only at the cost of eroding the foundations of the game with their constant changing of the rules
 
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I will never lose interest. What disappoints me is I feel that this slump is because our players have simply got lazy from success. It's the team that has lost interest. They are Deadset lazy.. There were signs earlier in the year and Harwick missed those signs. It started with Trent and other leaders. He needed to rein them in around the Geelong loss when in the second half the effort was a lazy as we have seen in years. I called it early when I raised the Elephant in the room about Cotchin...
 
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Yesterday’s game had me shaking my head with my arms in the air asking where’s the free kick. It was bewildering. Time and time again we gave away free kicks, probably most were there, but there was no reciprocation coming back our way. It is a blight on the game.
The AFL are so corrupt, everyone knows it but they are beyond reproach. Sick of the rule changes. The umpires need to pay every free kick, the players and coaches will adapt to how the games are being umpired and change game style. The game is so unjust when they pay one free to one player and call play on to the next.
As for the old boys club, you can put money on Brad Scott replacing SHocking and the first rule change will be to shorten the game (as Chris Scott has whinged about). Corrupt.
 
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Not losing interest, just shifting towards the draft and the list of possible draftees to fill some list gaps.

I will dead set lose interest if we trade away a strong draft hand.
 
Stopped watching non Richmond games about 8 years ago. Combination of things but the continued infuriating rule changes would be the main reason.
Now can't stand the industry commentary on the game and on TV. Watch our games with sound down. Don't watch any football shows...and that includes in premiership years.

Our success has zero to do with my loss of appetite for AFL "product".
 
We're just going through premiership fatigue, that's all. Can relate to hawks supporters now.

However the recent anti richmond rules and the incompetent umpires are making it even harder to keep interested.

I personally hate uncontested chip mark foitball.
 
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Everything about our great game in the last 6 decades was about pressure. Pressure on the ball carrier, pressure to get the ball, pressure to stick tackles or to break tackles, pressure to support your team mate, pressure to shepard for your team mate, pressure to provide options. Pressure, pressure, pressure made our game great.

This stand like a statue on the mark provides a player with the ball too much of an advantage as he is not under any pressure.

Lastly, and this truth really hurts. As a kid, then teenager, then young adult I lived and breathed footy. Even during the Tiger's 37 bad years I loved the game. Then came the 2017 and 2019 premierships and I was there at the MCG for both with my teenage son and I was stoked! BUT in 2020 with Covid-19 the excuse to shorten games I realised that after my beloved Tigers had won the premiership again nothing in my life had changed - still do the same "$hit" different day and have the same life issues to address each week, month, year. Then this year all the stupid rule changes and I felt lost - where had my passion for the contest gone? Why don't I care anymore? My wife and son's all tell me you're not loud anymore at the TV when the Tigers are playing - where has my husband/dad gone?

I feel duped, robbed, and fundamentally lonely that one of my life's treasures has been taken away from me by bastards who never loved the game like I once did!
 
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Yes it is about $$$$ ( most sports are)

The thing is the game itself by definition is flawed. No "set" positions means basically the more numbers you have around the ball the more likely you are to get the ball. Its like watching u/12 play. That's why they tried with the 6/6/6 thing, but it only works at centre bounces. Just a whole mob of blokes going where the ball is. Not sure how this can be fixed but to me that's the most obvious problem in our game

While I am sympathetic to what you are saying, it is a fundamental difference that Australian Rules Football has never had set positions. There's no offside and players are free to roam the ground at will.

I still think that, if they left the game alone for long enough, someone would work out a way to exploit the fact that most players are within a kick and a half of the ball. While getting numbers to the contest is a clear advantage, it comes at a cost, less players in space away from the ball. That could be exploited if someone can come up with a strategy to do so.

Although I find it distasteful, I am leaning towards maybe 16 players per team would help.

The commentators give the umpires a fair run as to who is the most woeful of them all, actually, I think the commentators have it. They are completely clueless at times and seem to have the attention span of a gnat.

The AFL is the highest level of competition in Australian Rules Football, but that doesn't mean the AFL should run the game, we should go back to some sort of National Football Council, because the AFL are wrecking the game with constant rule changes which just make it less of a spectacle.

DS
 
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I forgot to mention that the genuine talent is spread so thinly over so many teams.
 
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I forgot to mention that the genuine talent is spread so thinly over so many teams.

Good point, Acky
Plus, the talent pool is thinning right across the board as footy teams out in the suburbs and regions fold or amalgamate
Footy at the grassroots is at a very tenuous stage now.
The cliff edge could be closer than the corrupted AFL realises
 
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Well, if you weren't losing interest in football, then the Richmond game aside, you're probably gonna lose interest in everything else this week.

The most uninteresting, nothing games imaginable. Maybe the Freo and St Kilda games hold some level of interest but otherwise, what a boring round of football again.
 
I'm still invested in RFC but my interest in the broader game has waned markedly. I did not sit and watch a minute of another game over the weekend. Flicked it on the North-Eagles game at 3/4 time and looked like an upset brewing but still thought nah.............

The standard of footy and the way it is played is really boring right now. That is all on Dill and SHocking.
 
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Losing interest - yep. New rules make it keepings off and a real snooze fest.
 
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Staaaaand !!! Chip to uncontested mark. Staaaaaaaand !!! Chip to another uncontested mark.

Repeat.
 
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While Richmond has been successful, Carlton Essendon and Hawthorn suffered declines in interest due to poor performances. That's 3 big teams going through the doldrums. It's hard to be passionate when your team is out of the race by round 10.
 
Like some on here we have renewed our memberships year in and year out, including for our son.
Have not been to a game for 3 or 4 years.
Not worth the effort to travel from regional Victoria to watch a game that bears little resemblance to the game we used to watch and enjoy.
Diabolical umpiring with bias towards one team, short meaningless kicks to an unattended player. Chip chip!!
The constant commentary from TV commentators who constantly barrack for one particular team on the night or day, if there is a day game.
All the rule changes, in particular the statue rule, has made the game a farce.
No wonder fans, like those on here, are fed up.
 
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Today I sent this link to the RFC.
Not that they will take any notice I guess.
Hope I have not broken any PRE rules by doing this.
 
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When you keep changing the rules....over and over and over again....year in and year out.....the consumer has no idea what they're subscribing to. If you know anything about buyer behaviour and the purchase decision making process, one of the key elements in the process is 'post purchase evaluation' which includes levels of purchaser dissonance or confusion. If a buyer is confused after their purchase, they're less likely to purchase the same product or service again.

You reckon football fans aren't 'confused' about what they're buying or subscribing to at the moment ?
 
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Now that our season is shot, I am enjoying the ride of some of the other teams. Great to see North win last night, despite my general hatred for them. Really enjoyed saints belting the lions. Enjoy following Brando and Oleg at the Suns. And I am barracking for a demons premiership despite my contempt for them. Very strange year!

That all said I am embarrassed to say I have only been to 3 tiger games, two of which we were pantsed. I have found the fall hard to deal with. Now at least I am at a point where I am keen to see which of the kids can step up in the last 6 weeks and establish their careers.