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Round 11: the ear hair games.
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Good post. Very interesting on previous sidebottom incident. And agree on the delay in giving ball back that has crept in. Seen it often this year, player holds the ball out towards ump, small delay while he looks around to check his team mates are organised, THEN gives it back.
I'm surprised at the level of outrage TBH. Some outrage sure, but the level is OTT. And given the context Number 8 gives, its a free, and actually good umpiring!.
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You'd have to watch the presser. Maybe it's just me but seems to draw the crowd (journos) with a bit of humour like he's a stand up comedian (different to Dimma's style). Asks questions to them, digresses a bit, has a giggle: "you know Will Parker played cricket last year?...heh heh...it's a great story isn't it" . It's like he's having a chat with mates at the pub.
Once again, maybe it's my weird way of seeing things, but I see no other coach speak like this and never get scrutinised. I suppose they've barely failed under him in the last 2 and bit years to see what coach pressure is really like, as Ooze copped from day 1, but I've seen him speak like a psychologist when they have lost a game.
He even says he wasn't aware of that free kick where the ball wasn't handed back to the kicker. Really?????
Yes.
On the stand farce, I saw at least one Collingwood player get told to stand after a Docker had the ball boundary wing camera side, second quarter I think. The man on the mark crabbed inside a la the hated Richmond way that motivated the ruke change, got told to stand again, kept moving further inside, then the Docker played on.
A bit later on after a mark I heard an ump say, "Stand-play on...stand..." trailing off in hopelessness. This is one thing that's not the umps' fault, other than the inconsistent policing that is their hallmark.
The philosophy shiit he spills will come to an end.Geez Fly is weird when losing (drawing) at pressers.
It was ok 2 yrs ok now its unbearable
Best thing is the statement he made last year that there's no certainty he'll remain coach for too long. I just hope they don't go B2B to try and create a dynasty which would make him move on quicker and when he does, there's a chance either Pendles gets the coaching job or someone else and surely they wouldn't succeed as much as Fly has. Surely!!! We wanna see the Wobbles again!!!
Good pickup. Hard to know if the Pies player did it deliberately as a time wasting attempt? Be interested to know if the ump had called time-on, if he had it cannot be time wasting.
Agree on this over the mark thing. It's a massive blight. That pointing to an imaginary mark that is always beyond where the mark was taken. They just need to pay the 50 wiuthout warning if the player clearly runs over the mark. Do it a few times and it will stop.
As is the whole stand/outside 5 rubbish. Sometimes they call stand immediately, other times they give the player time to decide whether he wants to stand or back off.
Exactly. This is no small thing, the voice trailling off thing, you hear it all the time, 'STa..., OUTside ff...., play on' its comical. Imagine how far you would get trying to explain what is happening to a visiting foreigner? The rule is unnecessary and un-enforceable, a perfect storm of stupid. Add to that the general sloppy state of umpiring and its a complete shitshow.
The thing that I find pretty amazing considering the disruption to the game, one thing among many, is that creeping over the mark is not much different, maybe even no different, to what its always been.
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Agree 100% on the player setting his own mark which of course is 2 or 3m over. Not in the spirit of the game, the ump sets the mark, and very easy to eradicate as you say.
The other thing that drives me mental is players not involved in the marking contest coming in with a slightly late spoil/ grab/ pushes player over. A blight on the game that is very easy to eradicate, there is a rule against it, but they pay 1 on 20 and inevitably everybody whinges. Pay it everytime and it stops in one week.
There are some things thats are hard to get right and consistent, but the league is nowhere near getting the easy stuff right. Hopeless
Notice how he called out: "Collingwood...err.....Fremantle free kick"? That C word is programmed into these flogs.
The plastic Huns are in town at Dimma's favorite hotspot. Cartoon lose and it's more fun, the Huns lose and it's proved they're no good away from home.
The time wasting decision is an interesting one.
I have seen the footage but not the rest of the game.
The rule is clearly there and does not mention whether time on is called or not, as time wasting can happen when time is not being counted because it gives players time to get back behind the ball.
There are teams who do take their time giving the ball back to the umpire to make sure the ground is set up right for them. If that is the case then pay this every time, then it will stop.
I would think the main issue here is that this is the first time it has been paid in a while, it impacted directly on the result of a game and players have been getting away with this so often and for so long they are genuinely surprised when the rule is enforced.
As usual, the real solution is to enforce it every time or change the rule. It really isn't that difficult, make a decision on whether this should be a free kick, under the current rules it should be a free kick, and enforce the rule as written.
Ironically one rule they do have a problem with because it is such a mess, is the stand rule. Again, simple solution: if a rule is unenforceable then get rid of it. It detracts from the look of the game anyway so should be gone.
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I have seen the footage but not the rest of the game.
The rule is clearly there and does not mention whether time on is called or not, as time wasting can happen when time is not being counted because it gives players time to get back behind the ball.
There are teams who do take their time giving the ball back to the umpire to make sure the ground is set up right for them. If that is the case then pay this every time, then it will stop.
I would think the main issue here is that this is the first time it has been paid in a while, it impacted directly on the result of a game and players have been getting away with this so often and for so long they are genuinely surprised when the rule is enforced.
As usual, the real solution is to enforce it every time or change the rule. It really isn't that difficult, make a decision on whether this should be a free kick, under the current rules it should be a free kick, and enforce the rule as written.
Ironically one rule they do have a problem with because it is such a mess, is the stand rule. Again, simple solution: if a rule is unenforceable then get rid of it. It detracts from the look of the game anyway so should be gone.
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Going by the hysteria surrounding this decision and based on me turning the TV off at 3/4 time, I assumed that it led to the last score in the dying seconds. I was surprised to see there was 6 and a half minutes to go and another 3.1 to be scored but “this” was the definitive moment of the game. I reckon I saw at least half a dozen *smile* decisions/non-decisions in the first 3/4 that affected the result.
That said, Collingwood fans feeling they were dudded out of a win is an excellent way to start the weekend.
That said, Collingwood fans feeling they were dudded out of a win is an excellent way to start the weekend.
Port are nothing but a train wreck waiting for disaster to happen. Cornhole better start waking up to himself and announce this publicly. Brother or no brother under Kenny Boy.
