Or they get 2 extra hard rubbish collectionsPerhaps they're Visy environmental ambassadors?
Or they get 2 extra hard rubbish collectionsPerhaps they're Visy environmental ambassadors?
You can tell the AFL and its media is jammed with white-collar jerks who've never set foot on a manual labour job site in their lives. They'd be a wailing mess within two minutes after hearing the profanities fly.It's pure virtue signaling from the ESGAFL.
All BS sort it behind closed doors if it is really an issue and genuine offence is taken. This stuff can be handled quietly amongst the clubs.
No need for the BS roll out across the media leading news Bulletins either.
Pure social engineering activism nothing more nothing less.
I reckon those days are long gone. Clubs get fined $10k for filling a form out incorrectly related to the salary cap so I suspect times are different now.Perhaps they're Visy environmental ambassadors?
Well don’t call someone a “big girls blouse”. It would probably be transphobic, a slur or a transphobic slur.It's pure virtue signaling from the ESGAFL.
All BS sort it behind closed doors if it is really an issue and genuine offence is taken. This stuff can be handled quietly amongst the clubs.
No need for the BS roll out across the media leading news Bulletins either.
Pure social engineering activism nothing more nothing less.
To do what players have done for a hundred years. To put them off their game.Because words have to be dealt with in their context.
Why would you say these things to a player if they were true?
Plenty of players would do it if it gave them an edge over their opponent . Gay pride? I guess some still haven’t come to grips with that. Understandable in Aussie rules. NRL, NBL, NSL have all had players come out. Still that stigma in aflAll it would be doing is pointing out difference to a person who probably will have struggled in their life with the fact they are in a marginalised portion of society.
Well I’ve been called a lot worse.The question to ask is whether you would say to someone else “ hey Jim ya heterosexual”. Of course you wouldn’t
Well I think it has been “overkill” . But that’s just me. The world has gone mad. If someone was upset by being called a “f agg ot”. Is the player he was referring to homosexual? Dunno. If he wasn’t so what. Toughen up. If he is, apologise and move on.I am not commenting on the Finlayson case which I haven’t really been following. Sometimes rules are made that are an overkill but as I said I haven’t been following what he said to who.
I don’t know the answer to those questions but the context always has to be about the other person, not about the person making the comment.Well don’t call someone a “big girls blouse”. It would probably be transphobic, a slur or a transphobic slur.
What about calling someone “a soft co*k” is that offensive? Even if he has. Or is the connotation a slur? Can you be charged for “slurring” anyone?
Everyone is different Willo and to be honest what you have been called has no relevance to the issue.To do what players have done for a hundred years. To put them off their game.
Plenty of players would do it if it gave them an edge over their opponent . Gay pride? I guess some still haven’t come to grips with that. Understandable in Aussie rules. NRL, NBL, NSL have all had players come out. Still that stigma in afl
Well I’ve been called a lot worse.
Well I think it has been “overkill” . But that’s just me. The world has gone mad. If someone was upset by being called a “f agg ot”. Is the player he was referring to homosexual? Dunno. If he wasn’t so what. Toughen up. If he is, apologise and move on.
There are bigger issues in the world than someone’s hurt feelings
Ive been called that, a poof, *smile*, pr ick and everything under the sun. So what?
Why not? I have give my personal experienceEveryone is different Willo and to be honest what you have been called has no relevance to the issue.
Well I’m not homosexual, but I have been bullied and mocked.You aren’t a homosexual male who has probably been bullied and mocked,
You don’t know this at all.or an indigenous person who has been racially abused in their life.
True. But we can give examples of our own experiences. Being gay, black, yellow or brown doesn’t mean they have a monopoly on thatWe white males have no right to be judging what hurts people and what doesn’t.
Good questions.Why not? I have give my personal experience
Well I’m not homosexual, but I have been bullied and mocked.
Is it being homosexual or being bullied and mocked for it?
But wouldn't that be a hurtful insult to people with dodgy bladders n prostates?Maybe Finlayson should have just called the bloke p!ssweak.
Yes, good, valid points.Good questions.
Not nice being on the end of bullying, Willo. It can affect some people for life.
Kids at school can be horrible but (hopefully) most grow up and mature a bit.
Yes many of us (me very much included) have told jokes amongst friends and family or in bars, that would today be VERY frowned upon.
There are some slurs that are now clearly out of bounds. Skin colour, race, sexuality. I'm sure there's more.
I can remember some of the dreadful comments yelled at Sid Jackson and the Krakauer brothers by Tiger supporters. I was embarrased then. I con only imagine the stuff screamed out by Collingwood supporters
Times change. What was ok last week isn't today.
If a mate left a putt way short of the hole I would jokingly ask "and does your Husband play golf too"?
I'd wan't to be pretty sure of the audience before pulling that out now.
Maybe Finlayson should have just called the bloke p!ssweak.
So you enjoy derogatory slurs? Cause they don't mean anything to you?Geez I’m glad I don’t play afl.
Those pricks would have hung, drawn and quartered me 30 times. Suspended me for 400 games and fined me several $million.
Just because I call it as I see it
The very fact that you may have been bullied upholds the point. Don’t mock people because you don’t know their background storyWhy not? I have give my personal experience
Well I’m not homosexual, but I have been bullied and mocked.
Is it being homosexual or being bullied and mocked for it?
You don’t know this at all.
True. But we can give examples of our own experiences. Being gay, black, yellow or brown doesn’t mean they have a monopoly on that
But what I did ask was the player in question homosexual? Was it just calling him a name off the cuff? If so, no big deal to me.
If he is homosexual and took offence, apologise and do better.
If this player is homosexual and wanted to keep it in the closet, the afl has done him even more an injustice by highlighting it. IMO
No need for the afl to publicise how much of a social conscience upholder they are. Especially in light of their own shortcomings on social issues. They’re a *smile* football administration, not the social police.
The Syd Jackson abuse was the first time I heard it. I was young and my Dad asked me when we got home from the game what I thought about it.I can remember some of the dreadful comments yelled at Sid Jackson and the Krakauer brothers by Tiger supporters. I was embarrased then. I con only imagine the stuff screamed out by Collingwood supporters
well fortunately I haven’t mocked anybodyThe very fact that you may have been bullied upholds the point. Don’t mock people because you don’t know their background story
No, but I wasI’m not talking about the afl or Finlayson, I made that clear
And a fair pointGay people and ethnic minorities are far more likely to have been bullied and abused but as a general rule don’t do it to anyone is the point.
Geez.I was once sanctioned for pointing out someone’s height, turned out she was very sensitive about it and my sanction was fully justified
Get over yourself. Where have I said I enjoy derogatory slurs? It was tongue in cheek. Then you want to make it something else.So you enjoy derogatory slurs? Cause they don't mean anything to you?
In Willo's world a fag will always be a fag and a coon always a coon.
You are an an ignoramus - I saw it & I called it!