Nothing surer than us trading picks. Most likely into next year.
We'll only take the minimum picks this year you'd think.
We'll only take the minimum picks this year you'd think.
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So how many picks are we going to take?
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Miller is uncontracted according to my list. Has a long way to go imo to make it to AFL level.
I’d like us to trade the butler and Ellis picks for a future pick.
and draft 3.
really??
how am I supposed to keep my list square with all of these shenanigans going on??
and draft 3.
really??
how am I supposed to keep my list square with all of these shenanigans going on??
FREEEEMANTLE. Let's deal.
You have pick 22.
And an academy kid Liam Henry earmarked at 15-20, which would require pick 22.
How's about we trade pick 38, pick 56 and next year's 2nd round (say pick 36 )
for Freo's pick 22 and 2020 3rd rounder (say 44 - or maybe its 4th rounder so 62)
We end up with 19, 22, 39, 41... plus 2020x3rd/4th
Freo get 7, 10, 38, 56, 58... plus 2020x2rd
Overall we win by getting pick 22
Freo win by getting Henry with 38+56+58 plus get a 2nd rounder next year
We include pick 56 so they have enough points to get Henry... then we get it back next year.
We spend 2x 2nd rounders (38 and ?36?) to get pick 22
*next year picks may be pushed back due to academy picks, but it affects both clubs so I've ignored it
You have pick 22.
And an academy kid Liam Henry earmarked at 15-20, which would require pick 22.
How's about we trade pick 38, pick 56 and next year's 2nd round (say pick 36 )
for Freo's pick 22 and 2020 3rd rounder (say 44 - or maybe its 4th rounder so 62)
We end up with 19, 22, 39, 41... plus 2020x3rd/4th
Freo get 7, 10, 38, 56, 58... plus 2020x2rd
Overall we win by getting pick 22
Freo win by getting Henry with 38+56+58 plus get a 2nd rounder next year
We include pick 56 so they have enough points to get Henry... then we get it back next year.
We spend 2x 2nd rounders (38 and ?36?) to get pick 22
*next year picks may be pushed back due to academy picks, but it affects both clubs so I've ignored it
Yeah I think Freo or GWS will be the ones we are looking at.
Freos needs to be a net gain for them this year otherwise why do it.
GWS just don't have the picks this year so we may be able to extract higher value from them, they are pretty fair traders too so personally think we'd get a better deal with them but obviously on the proviso that they move up the draft order.
Suns dont need points. They now get to pick up whoever they want whenever they want. (That may only apply to academy players at this stage. )
I would be trying to avoid trading out next year's picks. Give them 40, 42 and 58 this year. And go to the draft with 19, 22 and 39. If giving those picks is to much in their favour try to swap picks next year, e.g. our 2nd for their 2nd, or 3rd for 3rd.
Did this analysis of our 2019 playing list and where they came from.
We have very few first rounders on our list, and most of them have finished Top 5 in the BnF. Unfortunatley we have no youth that were sourced from high first round draft picks.
Fortunately our other reliable source for Top 5 BnF has been the rookies. Second to fourth round selections have been OK, but no diamonds, apart from Edwards.
Overall we have had remarkable success with rookies, with 9 regular AFL players.
We need some of the young AFL regulars to elevate into the Top 5 BnF. Rioli, Higgins, Bolton, Higgins, Stack, Ross, Graham, Pickett, Nank etc
Otherwise, our most likely source of top end talent is Free Agency. I am not sure how many further Stacks or Picketts are out there?
| Top 5 BnF | Draft |
| Trent Cotchin | 2 |
| Dustin Martin | 3 |
| Dion Prestia | 6 |
| Nick Vlastuin | 9 |
| Jack Riewoldt | 13 |
| 15 | |
| Alex Rance | 18 |
| Shane Edwards | 26 |
| 73 | |
| Dylan Grimes | Other |
| Bachar Houli | Other |
| Kane Lambert | Other |
| Tom J. Lynch | Free |
| Top 10 Bnf | |
| Daniel Rioli | 15 |
| Josh Caddy | 24 |
| David Astbury | 35 |
| 67 | |
| Jason Castagna | Other |
| Jayden Short | Other |
| AFL regulars | |
| Jack Higgins | 17 |
| Shai Bolton | 29 |
| Kamdyn McIntosh | 31 |
| Jack Ross | 43 |
| Toby Nankervis | 46 |
| Jack Graham | 53 |
| Nathan Broad | 67 |
| Ivan Soldo | Other |
| Liam Baker | Other |
| Sydney Stack | Other |
| Marlion Pickett | Other |
| Potential | |
| Riley Collier-Dawkins | 20 |
| Callum Coleman-Jones | 20 |
| Noah Balta | 25 |
| Connor Menadue | 33 |
| Patrick Naish | 34 |
| Oleg Markov | 50 |
| Fraser Turner | 58 |
| Luke English | 62 |
| Ben Miller | 63 |
| Jacob Townsend | 70 |
| Ryan Garthwaite | 72 |
| Callum Moore | Other |
| Derek Eggmolesse-Smith | Other |
| Mabior Chol | Other |
| Jake Aarts | Other |
Other |
We have very few first rounders on our list, and most of them have finished Top 5 in the BnF. Unfortunatley we have no youth that were sourced from high first round draft picks.
Fortunately our other reliable source for Top 5 BnF has been the rookies. Second to fourth round selections have been OK, but no diamonds, apart from Edwards.
Overall we have had remarkable success with rookies, with 9 regular AFL players.
We need some of the young AFL regulars to elevate into the Top 5 BnF. Rioli, Higgins, Bolton, Higgins, Stack, Ross, Graham, Pickett, Nank etc
Otherwise, our most likely source of top end talent is Free Agency. I am not sure how many further Stacks or Picketts are out there?
I love the Tom J. Lynch Free column...... Bucks must really get the wobbles up when he visits this thread!
(Thank you Nathan for speaking to Tom, therefore convincing him where to play.... Respect!)
(Thank you Nathan for speaking to Tom, therefore convincing him where to play.... Respect!)
Yes I agree, we have so many picks, it is likely we will offload a serials of them for an update in pick.
Brodders we do it so that Freo get an advantage and want to make the deal.
any 2019 pick we trade to Freo they need touse on their academy kid Henry.
But if we split the pick, give them 39 and next year's 2nd, then this year they use 39 plus 56 and 58 on Henry and they keep next year's
pick. so they win.
we get 22 in exchange for 39 and hopefully 36
we win
Freo win by getting a 2020 pick, and using lower value picks on their academy kid.
It can be breakeven on points, just spread over 2 years
Dee's are trying to leverage Freo by warning they will bid on Henry at pick 8.
Apparently they are trying to do the same with GWS and Green at pick 3 which is why there is talk of a pick swap between those two teams as well.
Not sure Freo would be willing to call the Dees bluff
Could be a stretch but it would be a nice touch to have Patrick Naish wear his Dad’s number 6. Maybe Marlion would have claim to Grigga’s number also!
