Bridge said he hasn’t even scratched the surface with him yet. Frightening.
Could have the Sydney majors at his mercy. On todays run could even go for the derby.
Hope Orchestral comes over from NZ. Would be great to see them go toe to toe.
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Bridge said he hasn’t even scratched the surface with him yet. Frightening.
Could have the Sydney majors at his mercy. On todays run could even go for the derby.
Hope Orchestral comes over from NZ. Would be great to see them go toe to toe.
Orchestral is a superstar. Could turn out to be the best horse to come out of NZ in a long time. But she won't clash with CL this time. Vinery Stakes on 30th and Oaks 2 weeks later. She will win both. She has already won the NZ Derby so she doesn't need to win Australian Derby. Oaks will do fine.
Then the Cox Plate in the spring.
A genuine excuse easy. A scope showed that Imperatriz had a degree of internal exercise induced pulmonary haemorrhage.
wow. I could see she wasn't herself the whole way down.
what an incredible animal to fight on for 2nd in a G1 with a blown main pump?
as if we needed another reminder that there are no limits to the ways you can lose a heap of dough on the nags
punting through climate change aint gonna get any easier I tell ya
anyway, my '24 blew along with the great mares ticker.
I might have some kind of windfall I use to justify pulling a seat back up to the table in Spring,
but until then, adios and bueno suerte
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wow. I could see she wasn't herself the whole way down.
what an incredible animal to fight on for 2nd in a G1 with a blown main pump?
as if we needed another reminder that there are no limits to the ways you can lose a heap of dough on the nags
punting through climate change aint gonna get any easier I tell ya
anyway, my '24 blew along with the great mares ticker.
I might have some kind of windfall I use to justify pulling a seat back up to the table in Spring,
but until then, adios and bueno suerte
Bloody hell, I thought I had run out of ways to get beaten on the nags.
Terrific run given the circumstances.
I’m assuming that’s her Autumn campaign over now?
wow. I could see she wasn't herself the whole way down.
what an incredible animal to fight on for 2nd in a G1 with a blown main pump?
as if we needed another reminder that there are no limits to the ways you can lose a heap of dough on the nags
punting through climate change aint gonna get any easier I tell ya
anyway, my '24 blew along with the great mares ticker.
I might have some kind of windfall I use to justify pulling a seat back up to the table in Spring,
but until then, adios and bueno suerte
It's not as serious as it suggests.
Very common in horses - it basically means she tried her guts out and traces of blood was found in her lungs.
Would possibly have impacted her performance, but she'll likely be fine to continue in her prep and run in a couple of weeks in the William Reid.
Reckon the inside barrier (can be poison down the straight) impacted her ability to win more.
If she is right to run in the WR then she just wins it. Don't think any horse can touch her at WFA at the Valley.
If she goes on to TJ she probably wins that too. The only horse I think that can match her is I Wish I Win. He's an exceptional talent although the handling of him by Moody is bizarre. He's got one of the best horses in the country and he doesn't run him. He's had two starts this whole season; 3rd in Memsie and 2nd in Everest. It's quite strange. Beating Imperatriz first up in the TJ is a massive ask.
I know what leysy is saying - that its same as 'bleeding'. Foamy nostril blood. Think youde need odds reflecting the risk something internal
Explodes and she shudders and dies mid race.
I know what leysy saying it can be nothing,
But my old man had a horse that bled barely perceptible.
They bred it and got offered $100k as an unraced 3yo.
It had trialled some slick times and caught the binoculars of some honky kongs.
Anyway, they wanted to have some fun with this quick filly theyde paddock bred, so they knocked it back,
And it dropped dead under the trackwork jockey a week later.
$100 grand dogfood
With the chance of it happening again, especially if they continue on with her campaign, I'd be tipping Imperatriz out and bringing her back for the spring.
A good spell with the correct meds should reduce the risk factor.
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Have just read that they are pushing on to the William Reid.
A good spell with the correct meds should reduce the risk factor.
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Have just read that they are pushing on to the William Reid.
Te Akau Racing would be one of the most professional outfits in the racing industry; not just in AUS/NZ but globally. If they think she's right to go that's good enough for me. Hopefully others have doubts and we get black figures for the race; I'll be all over it if that's the case.
I know what your saying about the Kiwis Riddles,
but even they're not immune to greed and pressure.
I think you're right. At The Valley at WFA, she probably *smile* it in.
I hope theres a few good horses around in 2025,
when my punting budget gets reallocated.
Orchestral ezy, Orchestral. Break open the kids piggy bank and load up on the Vinery-Oaks Double in a few weeks. Will give you a bank for when she wins the Cox Plate in the spring.
Google her last 4 starts. In fact Google her first start as a 2 year old where she ran second. It was unbelievable. She wasn't in the camera shot with 50m to go and got beat a nose. She is outstanding.
yeah ive been watching her closely. freak..
dont think you will ever get back more than you stake on her but.
$15 pre-noms for the cox plate does seem a prudent investment
while I tend to agree,
yesterday reminded me that disaster and destitution lurks around every bend.
indeed, on every straight.
She's yet to compete at G1 WFA - it is a big step.
She'd only have 2.5kg off Romantic Warrior in a cox plate wouldn't she?
Im convinced I reaped my biblical allocation of free money '16-'20.
In 3 score years and ten,
maybe the punter gets to collect not one more than a hundred pieces of gold?
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IMHO the most important factor in a WFA horse is "turn of foot". She has it in spades. WFA will be no issue for her.
She will get 3.5kg from RW if they meet in the Cox Plate. I'd be happy to back her at level weights; that's how good I think she is.
That said if I knew what I was talking about I wouldn't need to work for a living
Yeh, we can all pick winners at times but not many end up in the black over the long haulThat said if I knew what I was talking about I wouldn't need to work for a living
Doing the review from Saturday and Imperatriz run was better than looked. They went very fast and everything around her dropped out.
Am with you that Te Akau know what they are doing and if she runs in the William Reid and TJ SMith you can be confident they have her right. She's too valuable not to be.
On Private Eye - Disagree on his best distance. He's been trained purely as a sprinter now.
Totally Talking through the kick but that defeat was purely down to a horrible ride. WTF was Nash doing snagging it back to last after it jumped well. It led up the Lightning Stakes over the same distance first up so has early speed.
It ran the fastest last 400m (21.44) and 200m (10.89) of the day. Horses cant run faster than that. It was actually physically impossible to run the time needed to win from there.
Ah well - The Great Game eh
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Yeah they are exceptional splits. I Wish I Win ran 4 x sub 11 splits in the 2023 Lightning when narrowly running second to Coolangatta. Won of the most incredible runs I've seen. But then he was a bit flat second up when he still ran pretty well in the Newmarket for 3rd but couldn't overcome the big weight pull to a red hot filly In Secret. He was then freshened and destroyed a red hot field in the TJ Smith.
I think the same thing happened to PE. Maybe he was a little flat initially after a great first up run. That happens a lot. He may be trained as a sprinter but he has never won over 1000m. Like IWIW he has the ability to go very well fresh over 1000m but still think his best is in the 1200m - 1400m range.
