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U.S Presidential Election
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Good point The Dems were also complicit.
Lee agrees with Biden too, was totally worth it.
Labels, labels and more labels that’s all so many have these days. They mean nothing, there is no “leftist elite”,it doesn’t exist anywhere except in the imagination of you and others who think like you.
I have no doubt whatsoever that the world will be a better place with Trump gone from being President. Zero doubt.
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it possibly sort of exists in Govindas, when the conversation hits a sweet spot during the date halva, occasionally?
I think Stan Grant has provided a very balanced, consistent and considered commentary throughout Trumps presidency.
I think this is good analysis
The sad scene of America tearing itself apart reveals a hypocrisy
The US President's dangerous delusions and his crazed followers should remind us that America has always teetered on the edge of collapse, writes Stan Grant.www.abc.net.au
Nah its just Grant indulging in his both sides rhetoric, acting like what Trump has done is comparable to previous presidents.
I disagree.
ive listened to Stan on Trump closely since election day,
and his message as I interpret it has been consistently
trump is a psycho without precedent, unfit for office, but he is a symptom of America, not a cause
and I think as well as being a sophisticated analysis, its a more optimistic view
which I guess is why I like it?
I hear what you are saying, but I reckon if you drew a spectrum of damaging personality disordered leadership line on a blackboard 0 to 10, and pressed Stan to place Trump, Bush, Clintons etc on it,
He would firmly put Trump at 10, Bush at 6 and Clinton at 4
Still, I completely understand your criticism
maybe he reasons that it is a race? to oblivion
non-binary gendered V big coal?
I dunno?
I cant ever recall him backing a winner, back in the days when I read his stuff.
if thats any form guide?
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Yes, the world was fortunate to have an everyday man, who has lived his life in the 'real world' as the leader of the US. I really could see Donald shutting in the outer with us in the rain at the G.
In fact i reckon i saw him on the train a few years back, i think we were playing the Saints.
Long twitter thread analysing Trump's speech before the riot. One thing that stood out, Trump was exhorting military, police and security to join them, to those saying this wasn't a coup its abundantly clear that it was an attempt, oh and he also threatened Pence:
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Thread by @SethAbramson on Thread Reader App
@SethAbramson: (THREAD) Media has yet to do a deep dive on precisely what Trump *said* in his January 6 speech in DC—a speech now called an "incitement to insurrection," and the basis for an article of...…
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They don't need rape / tax evasion or fraud. His speech on Wednesday whether you think it referred to a coup or not, the minimum it would lead to (and I'd think they have a pretty good chance at a conviction) is incitement to riot. With the damage that was caused etc and the loss of life, the District of Columbia can send him to prison for 10 years which potentially would be for the rest of his life. His supporters would treat this as an attack on them, but they just cannot let the actions of Wednesday go unpunished. Rudy should also be charged with the same crime IMO.
You know, some could argue that Trump actually delivered what he promised.
He's ensured that the current Trump fuelled racist QAnon believing GOP lost the White House, House and Congress.
That's a massive step towards Making America Great Again.
He's ensured that the current Trump fuelled racist QAnon believing GOP lost the White House, House and Congress.
That's a massive step towards Making America Great Again.
It seems in the US that when it's too hard to convict organised crime heads of the crimes they truly commit, they bring in Tax Evasion to put them away. It's probably the easiest charge to get a conviction on.
Maybe they don't, but those cases are already well advanced in terms of investigations. They should prosecute on all these cases if there is enough to prosecute on.
early in Trumps presidency (I could go back and find it, but cant be stuffed),
I dreamed of seeing him dishevelled and defeated, emerging from a drain, in hand-cuffs,
in the manner of Saddam Hussein.
After succumbing to his delusions, and the subsequent spectacular failure of his incumbent-coup attempt,
I believe this is a distinct possibility.
I reckon he is completely untethered from reality, is at the absolute bottom of the barrel in available advice,
and will run.
and my dream will come true.
any pity or compassion I feel for his supporters,
does not apply to Trump, his family and his allies.
there is a kind of version of the statute of limitations for compassion.
I dreamed of seeing him dishevelled and defeated, emerging from a drain, in hand-cuffs,
in the manner of Saddam Hussein.
After succumbing to his delusions, and the subsequent spectacular failure of his incumbent-coup attempt,
I believe this is a distinct possibility.
I reckon he is completely untethered from reality, is at the absolute bottom of the barrel in available advice,
and will run.
and my dream will come true.
any pity or compassion I feel for his supporters,
does not apply to Trump, his family and his allies.
there is a kind of version of the statute of limitations for compassion.
Trump has done a good job brainwashing his supporters.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/twitter-trending-hang-mike-pence
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/twitter-trending-hang-mike-pence
Even though Lee fears the extinction of humanity, turns out that this allegation the Pelosi is enforcing a gender-neutral holocaust up on us is "mostly false". It applied only to one document, the House Rules and wouldn't affect the right of members to use gender specific language in legislation, speeches and so on.
Turns out this allegation and its exaggeration originated from the well-known nutbag and felon, Dinesh D'Souza. The same felon that Trump pardoned.
www.snopes.com
Turns out this allegation and its exaggeration originated from the well-known nutbag and felon, Dinesh D'Souza. The same felon that Trump pardoned.
Did Pelosi 'Remove' Gender-Specific Words from Use in the House of Representatives?
Right-leaning observers and commentators reacted angrily to proposals made by the Democratic House Speaker in January 2021. But what did she actually say?
www.snopes.com
dont let truth get in the way of a good polarisation though.
although the demise of truth is greatly exaggerated.
on demises, credible stories (family testimonials) of the coup participants emerging.
if the dead are a representative sample (n=4),
then Trump has really managed to mobilise those with serious mental health challenges,
be it PTSD, or more endogenous stuff.
we've said rhetorically all along the white power and QNON etc are a batshit crazy mob,
but the stories of the dead paint a pretty sad picture of the mental health of Trumps supporters contributing significantly to their alienation and disempowerment.
Harvesting people from the fringes of society with lies is unfortunately not a new technique in the farming of power.
but it reiterates the importance of a healthy civil society looking after its most vulnerable members though.
we should wrap our arms around Trump supporters as we do any other vulnerable minority.
