Better safety net, minority groups are smaller, unarmed populace. The answer is probably very complex.
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U.S Presidential Election
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Better safety net, minority groups are smaller, unarmed populace. The answer is probably very complex.
We don't have a shoot first, ask questions later culture enshrined in our social psyche.
By the way, if you do, the solution isn't shoot more. Obviously, I would have thought.
Unfortunate for them but Merica has been rooted for a long time, Trump aint great but to blame him & his team on this latest fiasco is fanciful
Black deaths in custody were occurring before 2016
School massacres were occurring before 2016
The NRA were the biggest influencer of policy before 2016
They were an inherently racist country before 2016
etc etc
Black deaths in custody were occurring before 2016
School massacres were occurring before 2016
The NRA were the biggest influencer of policy before 2016
They were an inherently racist country before 2016
etc etc
I’m not going to argue with you about the WHO. I will declare that I know a couple of people who work there in Geneva. Some of the so called “facts” about what happened are not really facts at all.
China on the other hand is by far the most likely to be the place for the next pandemic to start but the irony of what has happened is that the vilification of China, however justified, will make that more likely rather than less.
I’m not defending them but that is the sad truth.
What can you do about a nation that has no shame? I'd like to think if Australia inflicted this pestilence on the world through either unsanitary culture or dubious research, we would be at the very least sheepish and wanting to atone.
Weapons research? Really? You're going to hold that line as well? The only people to claim that, without any evidence, are Trump, Fox and the rest of the MAGA idiots.
Police culture is very warped in the US. Look at the Floyd killing. There are 4 police officers who are implored by bystanders to 'not kill' Floyd for 8 minutes. There is no acknowledgement, no interaction. That is sociopathic behaviour and it's not a rogue cop. It's all four cops.
Next day they arrest a CNN reporter (black) on live TV. The reporter shows credentials, is polite and asks where the cops want him to go so he doesn't get in the way. When he is arrested he asks why. Again no acknowledgement, no interaction - absolute police state stuff. You wonder if he wasn't CNN and not on live TV (the cops didn't know - They actually carry the camera away and its shooting ashpalt shots) what would have happened to him, Once again sociopathic behaviour and culturally ingrained and almost as chilling as the Floyd murder.
I think I am with George Carlin in that this doesn't get resolved at the ballot box in the US but in some large scale violence. Its probably closer now than we realised, especially when you factor in a more toxic and incompetent leadership than usual.
Next day they arrest a CNN reporter (black) on live TV. The reporter shows credentials, is polite and asks where the cops want him to go so he doesn't get in the way. When he is arrested he asks why. Again no acknowledgement, no interaction - absolute police state stuff. You wonder if he wasn't CNN and not on live TV (the cops didn't know - They actually carry the camera away and its shooting ashpalt shots) what would have happened to him, Once again sociopathic behaviour and culturally ingrained and almost as chilling as the Floyd murder.
I think I am with George Carlin in that this doesn't get resolved at the ballot box in the US but in some large scale violence. Its probably closer now than we realised, especially when you factor in a more toxic and incompetent leadership than usual.
A way too simplistic View of what is happening.
I have received messages from friends in the US who follow smaller and independent news outlets lamenting that all we are seeing is the violence. Examples of what we are not seeing are things like
- many peaceful multiracial protests in Minneapolis
- articles about bus drivers refusing orders to drive arrested protesters to jail
- images of white woman forming human chains between police and black protesters to protect them
If we just watch the mainstream media we won’t know what is really happening. Maybe the examples I was sent are more representative of what is actually happening but they don’t make sensational stories?
I don’t know but what I do know is that saying everyone who is protesting has an inner criminal and wants to get stuff free is not true
By sheer numbers yes they shoot more white people but on a per capita basis (Trump can explain this to you) they shoot more than twice as many black people as white.
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A 2018 study in the
found the mortality rate by police per 100,000 was 1.9 to 2.4 for black men, 0.8 to 1.2 for Hispanic men and 0.6 to 0.7 for white men"
The issue in America sure is complex as they are probably the most racist country I have been to. Whilst they don't technically physically segregate the population there is a massive level of social segregation which invariably is driven by economic activity but is therefore also driven by colour in the US. This leads to a lot more economic driven crime, and in some aspects I'd include gang and drug culture to be reflective of that. When given the choice of working for a living in Walmart and then having a 2nd job at the local gas station or taking the risk and joining a gang, a higher proportion of black s/ Hispanics make that decision as opposed to the white population.
They have done nothing to try and deal with this underlying inequity for decades so for me it will never chance unless there is a mass revolution that helps no-one.
They have done nothing to try and deal with this underlying inequity for decades so for me it will never chance unless there is a mass revolution that helps no-one.
You were too quick quoting me before I could change it. I don't know what the truth is. None of us do.
I dismissed this guy as a kook at the time, but he's obviously a very smart man with vast experience in the field. He was in no doubt.
Sure. I don't claim to know what's happening in any detail, I haven't followed o/s news for weeks.
Do you think perhaps the mainstream media provides a warped perspective of Donald Trump?
They're forever in search of a headline, jumping on a word out of place or showing a snippet of footage out of context. Crap shows like Today Tonight are forever fanning the flames by creating confected outrage.
Violence grabs more attention than peaceful protest.
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Maybe the stats also suggest that crime is more endemic to certain demographics. If a cop's experience tells him that certain people are more likely to be trouble, it is what it is. We're conditioned to learn that way.
Warning: This is very violent vision.
Violence is not the answer. It will only escalate the hate.
Violence is not the answer. It will only escalate the hate.
You don't need the help of mainstream media organisations to get a true understanding of Trump. Just listen/read his own words, what he says, unedited, through multiple media platforms.
If he was as bad as he is painted here, he would have no supporters left. The reporting is not balanced, in fact it's deliberately unbalanced.
Footage before this scene shows the guy chasing and trying to hit a black kid/adult with skateboard. Footage after this scene shows that he's not dead and being tended too/looked after by other protesters/looters.
Again, no needs mainstream media when it comes to Trump. He says what he says, loud and proud. Often tries to back track a day or so later, but he says what he says.
