Coronavirus

[MB78]

Yet the Libs and Nats appear to have all the MPs who are promoting anti vac messages, and are the parties that appear least willing to be loud in their support of vaccination.

Any anti vaccination person is an idiot in my eyes and I don’t rate any political person not doing the team thing to get the country going. But the Greens and the ALP must do more to get their voters to do the right thing, they are not going to listen to a coalition government about getting vaccinated when they are a Union construction worker or a Melbourne CBD greens voter.

 

[TigerMasochist]

The scaremongering from the dictator today was cruel . 3000 deaths in January ? Really . Guess what State of Emergency is up for review on Dec 13th , he was try his hardest to get the extension! Fiona Patton holds the key . You may be all locked down well into 2022 !

Reckon Dan might be slippin Fiona a little early Xmas present then to ensure he gets his extension in.

 

[TigerMasochist]

Cous is a Dr in Melb can also confirm they are starting to feel it in this lockdown compared to other ones. Chronic fatigue. No outlet for them to recharge as he said. Go somewhere, do an activity, nothing. Long term restrictions beyond what they expected by govt. Its impating the H/system (how much, he didnt go into it). Very long shifts continually by many staff. They are doing the best as they can.

on another note, I happen to read (unclear how true), last April, Vic Govt were meant to increase ICU beds by 4800 beds around Vic as a state. Unsure if they have done that. Maybe govt might need to look at overseas to bring in qualified people (nurses & dr) if they are available. EG 200 Drs brought into WA.

Old mate Dan promised 4000 extra ICU beds to go with the already existing 800. When the *smile* first hit the fan last year. Still only got the original 800 ICU beds. Dunno what he did with the money he was gunna spend to set them up, maybe he used it to pay for all that hotel quarantine security instead.

 

[TigerMasochist]

Riots in front of CFMEU head office. Setka and his union mates got pelted with bottles chairs and tables for trying to mandate the vaccines.

Good to see Setka n his mates getting a dose of their own medicine rammed back down their throats. Been operating their union under the old mob rule of bullying, intimidation n thuggery for years. Laughed my arse off when I saw his own mob turned on him.

 

[eZyT]

if neo-nazi looneys are infiltrating and playing the CFMEU,

they're pretty brave neo-nazi looneys.

 

[22nd Man]

if neo-nazi looneys are infiltrating and playing the CFMEU,

they're pretty brave neo-nazi looneys.

Welcome Damien Barrett to this thread.

 

[TigerMasochist]

Wonder what deal Dan makes with his union mates?

Paid cooties leave, what else?

 

[Sintiger]

Don't think the flu or bronchitis or pneumonia exist anymore. All killed of by that nasty cooties virus.

It was actually killed off by lockdowns and masks. Funny about that

 

[22nd Man]

Formal announcement on construction in 10mins apparently.

Vic...struggling.

As is the weather.

Official now. That is a serious decision. Give Dan credit for taking a very hard course there. He can say its health driven but it's a lot about controlling the dissent. Brave.

 

[Sintiger]

Old mate Dan promised 4000 extra ICU beds to go with the already existing 800. When the *smile* first hit the fan last year. Still only got the original 800 ICU beds. Dunno what he did with the money he was gunna spend to set them up, maybe he used it to pay for all that hotel quarantine security instead.

So many factual errors. Well done

Probably read this in one of the news outlets. I am often staggered at how wrong our media can get this stuff.

 

[shad]

On staffing -- when I worked in India it was common for papers to run stories of gleaming new medical facilities opened by politicians' that then stood idle because there wasn't any staff qualified to operate the gear. Easiest thing is to order a new piece of equipment.

Made me think of the Yes Minister episode about the hospital with no patients. Always good for a laugh.

 

[22nd Man]

Saw a comment on the thread on low vax rates in Melb CBD. I am thinking that N = those that lived there in 2019 and n = those who live there now and n/N <75%. International Students are transient at best of times and I would say tens of thousands of them have left our shores as their courses closed or went online. If we are waiting for them to get vaxed to meet our targets we need to go door to door in those apartment towers and find out which are empty.

 

[Legends of 2017]

Good to see Setka n his mates getting a dose of their own medicine rammed back down their throats. Been operating their union under the old mob rule of bullying, intimidation n thuggery for years. Laughed my arse off when I saw his own mob turned on him.

I laughed when he said he has never met his “mate” Andrews

 

[Al Bundy]

as far as i can tell no one is being forced to get a vaccination. but it is not safe for those who havent been vaccinated to be on constructions sites, nor is it safe for the wider community due to the community spread unvaccinated workers will lead to.
the choice is either only those who have been vaccinated, or no one.

same with sporting events, pub, concerts etc. by November it wont be safe for everyone, so it is either only those vaccinated or it is no one.

Yes they are being forced. Thats why they are kicking up

 

[Al Bundy]

Really don't know what your problem is Al. I asked if you thought the behaviour of those guys at CFMEU office was acceptable because you insinuated that I was being a keyboard warrior because I wasn't game enough to confront them directly. If these people decide not to get vaccinated they need to accept the consequences of that decision. They can't expect any respect when they start acting like thugs, kicking dogs and setting up chairs in the middle of the road because they can no longer have smoko in an enclosed tea room.

I have no axe to grind or angle to play against you. I was simply responding to your post. I don't understand why people wouldn't get vaccinated; don't get it all. The medical advice is that if you are over 12 years old there are very few reasons to not get vaccinated. But yes it is a choice; but there are consequences to making decision to not vaccinate. Anyway I appreciate that you don't condone the actions of the protesters; it was not my intention to insinuate that.

I dont condone violence nor protests.
Im pro vax & see benfits BUT thats my view.
I do also have a strong views no else shld be coerced or forced into getting vaccine.
Whether they are looney as some paint it or not to me its irrelevant. Many sectors rejecting vax. Not just construction.
In Aust parts of police force, ambos, nurses, drs, other unions have voiced disapproval on mandated vax. Might be issues also in armed forces too.


P.s. i dont care fwiw any1 has a beef with me. Actually no catefactor. I dont have as u put it an axe to grind.

 

[DavidSSS]

Forced to have a vaccine which is safe and effective?

Why do they need to be forced, what exactly is the f***en problem with getting a vaccine?

DS

 

[Al Bundy]

Not sure exactly how it works, but ya gotta link your medicare acct to ya mygov acct n then ya can get an app on ur phone that shows your vax status. Daughter did mine for me last night.

Likewise TM.

I use 2 emails ( wk & personal stuff) and have had conflct on my covoid id app. Constantly need to get id scanned.

Trying to streamline to 1 email but yet to tackle all business asic areas to swap. All entwined.

I'll worry about it another time

 

[Al Bundy]

Forced to have a vaccine which is safe and effective?

Why do they need to be forced, what exactly is the f***en problem with getting a vaccine?

DS

Then should anyone have a choice?

From the start govts saying its not mandatory. Still not mandatory for everyone in Australia last time i checked.

Edit: there is massive push back around the world to not wanting the CV19 vax. Its a minfield.

 

[Al Bundy]

How can you respect that behaviour? And then condone the threat of physical violence by calling anyone a coward who challenges it but not in person?

That's cowardice, its how types like this behave. When things get tough and challenging you start swinging. That's how you raise a domestic violence perpetrator.

Physical intimidation is the lowest of the low. How can there be a genuine discussion when that threat exists?

Out of context. Dont condone violence. See other posts.

People want a choice not coerced or forced. People are pissed not just construction. Yet posts/comments scratch their head why and refuse to accept people choice. I say go ask.( dont expect it, but say it u look & listen to their msg. Not just look down at people on their personal choice of the covoid vax).

That individual who kicked that dog, hope he is caught & arrested imo. Ahole of the highest order.

Good to hear too on the other side of things police commissioner is investigating cops behaviour against that elderly lady. Being addressed and reached out to the family

 

[AngryAnt]

Don't think the flu or bronchitis or pneumonia exist anymore. All killed of by that nasty cooties virus.

killed by mask wearing and social distancing