What's he is going to do with only 2 or 3 picks to work with, not his usual 23
Maybe, but he's had about 5,500 early first round picks during his time, been sacked twice n ultimately achieved three fifths of SFA in that time. Much of what happens at Carlscum since he left there hangs on the players they've poached in recent years to support n supplement all the early first round stars that are already fully matured.I know it's never acceptable to inject facts that contradict a good PRE kicking of an opponent, but I am baffled by the knocks on Silvagni as a list manager.
He started at GWS in 2011 from scratch, the side finished top 4 by 2016 and made a Grand Final in 2019.
He started at Carlton in 2014, finished in 2019 and that list looks ready to mature into a finals making side now as well and probably should have started last year, despite all the coaching upheaval in those years.
People can pick out all the micros of individual draft picks and priority picks but if the macro of a list manager is to create a list capable of playing finals and contending then he is miles ahead of most.
Trade for fringe Giants players?What's he is going to do with only 2 or 3 picks to work with, not his usual 23
Yep the Sun’s issue not talent identification, it’s talent retention.and before someone trots out the Sun's versus GWS comparison, look at who left the Sun's and we're stars
the gift that keeps givingwould have thought SOS was finished as a list manager then along came St Kilda
quantity vs qualitySoS's Giants raid-Summer/A.Phillips/Whiley/Palmer/Plowman/Jaksch/Lamb/Marchbank/J.Pickett.
Vs Blair
Townsend/Hopper & Tarranto.
Say no more.
I assume they’ll be appointing Brian Waldron to replace him….St Kilda head of football Geoff Walsh resigns from role for personal reasons
The veteran football joined the Saints three months ago.www.zerohanger.com
I assume they’ll be appointing Brian Waldron to replace him….
Where's Wally, haven't heard from him for years.
SOS in Walsh out ...nearly at the same time ...................mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm???I assume they’ll be appointing Brian Waldron to replace him….
Well they clearly can!Silvagni took over as list manager of a Carlton team that had 3 no1 picks already on its list, plus Patrick Cripps, and was a year removed from playing finals. Nearly 10 years later Carlton still havent played finals again.
I am not sure how anyone could call that a success.
(and keep in mind he was list manager not recruiter so he shouldnt get the credit for individual selections like Curnow and McKay.)
it can be hard for outsiders to truly judge ones performance , but hey that wont stop usWell they clearly can!
He started at Carlton in 2014, finished in 2019 and that list looks ready to mature into a finals making side now as well and probably should have started last year, despite all the coaching upheaval in those years.
People can pick out all the micros of individual draft picks and priority picks but if the macro of a list manager is to create a list capable of playing finals and contending then he is miles ahead of most.
I like these bits -
that list looks ready to mature into a finals making side
probably should have started last year
despite coaching upheaval
create a list capable of playing finals
miles ahead of most
Talk about excuses, almost half the bloody sides make finals. And low benchmarks.
I wonder who is included in "most"!
Talk about excuses, almost half the bloody sides make finals. And low benchmarks.
I wonder who is included in "most"!
If Curnow/Weitering/Mackay and Walsh stay healthy it will go a long way to them performing well. If you hindsight drafted 2015 you would likely draft 2 of the 3 he did. And Oliver.Carlton finished last the year he took over and the next four were Brisbane, Gold Coast, Essendon and St Kilda.
Brisbane have done well in the interim but if I had to pick which one of them will contend for a flag next I'm with Carlton.
Will be very interesting to revisit this topic in the next 2 seasons I reckon.
The year he took over was 2014- the Blues finished 13th, above the likes of the Lions, the Dees and the Dogs. They won 7 games and drew 1, with a % of 89. In his last season at the Blooze, they finished 16, winning 7 games with a % of 84. the following year they won 7 games again, and in 2021 they won 8 games. In his 5 years in charge they made no progress.Carlton finished last the year he took over and the next four were Brisbane, Gold Coast, Essendon and St Kilda.
Brisbane have done well in the interim but if I had to pick which one of them will contend for a flag next I'm with Carlton.
Will be very interesting to revisit this topic in the next 2 seasons I reckon.