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Lynch !!

Any chance he plays again 2023? Poor fella, thats one hell of a broken foot. what ever happened to 4-6 weeks to heal and then get fit again..
 
Ok, i have done a forensic search and investigation into the specifics of Tom Lynch's foot injury seeing all we get from RFC is he has a broken foot :mad: :rolleyes:'

As luck would have it I came upon below 3aw interview with Tom Lynch dated 20 May 2023.

I will let you make up your own mind how injury management was in regards to Tom's injury.

Bullet Points as disclosed by Tom:

. Injury is a fracture of third metarcarsal and a metal plate put on it.
. Non collision injury 2nd qtr against bulldogs, (round 4 April 8), was just running and heard a crack, (if you recall we put Tom back on the ground in that match when he was hobbled as we needed someone to take up space and occupy a defender).

Lead up to injury:

. had a foot injury in the pre-season and must have just off-loaded a bit and put stress in that area and had a bit of a stress fracture and just kept on going and it fractured as a result. (There was debate here on PRE whether the club and Lynch were rushing him to round 1 with minimum training under his belt:rolleyes:)

Change in Time-Line to expected return date:

. At date of interview, 20th May, Lynch said the boot was coming off in a week and was due another scan in a week and was 5 or 6 weeks away with the best case the Brisbane game after bye.

Post that interview:

As of today 20th June Lynch is still in moonboot.

13th June Club Injury Report:

Tom Lynch, foot

"We're going slowly with Tom. We got some really good news with a scan and x-ray last week. Obviously he's very important and we're going to make sure things are spot on before we get him back into football, but things are going okay."


**The Wash-Up: Still listed as long term and according to Meehan "things are going okay":rolleyes:

A pity we didn't take the time to make sure things weren't "SPOT ON" in the first instance.


 
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My view (with zero facts/evidence) is Meehan lacked the balls / experience to tell dimma (on his last dance) and lynch that they needed to back off and just crossed his fingers.

The only other explanation is complete incompetence.
 
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Ok, i have done a forensic search and investigation into the specifics of Tom Lynch's foot injury seeing all we get from RFC is he has a broken foot :mad: :rolleyes:'

As luck would have it I came upon below 3aw interview with Tom Lynch dated 20 May 2023.

I will let you make up your own mind how injury management was in regards to Tom's injury.

Bullet Points as disclosed by Tom:

. Injury is a fracture of third metarcarsal and a metal plate put on it.
. Non collision injury 2nd qtr against bulldogs, (round 4 April 8), was just running and heard a crack, (if you recall we put Tom back on the ground in that match when he was hobbled as we needed someone to take up space and occupy a defender).

Lead up to injury:

. had a foot injury in the pre-season and must have just off-loaded a bit and put stress in that area and had a bit of a stress fracture and just kept on going and it fractured as a result. (There was debate here on PRE whether the club and Lynch were rushing him to round 1 with minimum training under his belt:rolleyes:)

Change in Time-Line to expected return date:

. At date of interview, 20th May, Lynch said the boot was coming off in a week and was due another scan in a week and was 5 or 6 weeks away with the best case the Brisbane game after bye.

Post that interview:

As of today 20th June Lynch is still in moonboot.

13th June Club Injury Report:

Tom Lynch, foot

"We're going slowly with Tom. We got some really good news with a scan and x-ray last week. Obviously he's very important and we're going to make sure things are spot on before we get him back into football, but things are going okay."


**The Wash-Up: Still listed as long term and according to Meehan "things are going okay":rolleyes:

A pity we didn't take the time to make sure things weren't "SPOT ON" in the first instance.


This type of injury can take 6- 8 weeks to heal. More closer to 8 weeks due to surgery. Then you need to take into account any swelling etc. We are up to 10 weeks now. No doubt things havent gone to plan. Once off the moonboot he will need at least a 4 week training block. Assuming the moonboot comes off next week (as reported) he wont be back until at least Round 19/20. Assuming we are still in finals contention he will get a 4 week block of games in and ready for finals.

Not the end of the world just yet.
 
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My view (with zero facts/evidence) is Meehan lacked the balls / experience to tell dimma (on his last dance) and lynch that they needed to back off and just crossed his fingers.

The only other explanation is complete incompetence.

That would be Leysy's guess as well. Not so much Lynch but overall with a few players.
 
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So we basically have no idea when and if he will return this year ? There hasn't been anywhere near the level of information this year that Burge used to provide in his reports.
 
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Tom had surgery to repair his plantar fasciitis just before xmas, and then off a limited pre-season played round one, it seemed a bit rushed to me.
Foot injuries can be very nasty, Matthew Egan's career was cut short by a foot injury. I hope the club makes sure that Tom is 100% before he plays again, as he's too valuable.
 
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That would be Leysy's guess as well. Not so much Lynch but overall with a few players.
Then Tim Livingstone wasn’t doing his job either.

I suspect someone got hold of Meehan and told him to grow a pair. There definitely has been a shift in our injury management since the early part of the year.
 
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Tom had surgery to repair his plantar fasciitis just before xmas, and then off a limited pre-season played round one, it seemed a bit rushed to me.
Foot injuries can be very nasty, Matthew Egan's career was cut short by a foot injury. I hope the club makes sure that Tom is 100% before he plays again, as he's too valuable.
That was a navicular break and because he wanted to get back and play the GF he rushed the rehab. It's one of the few bone breaks that may never heal even with surgery because it gets such little blood flow.

Michael Jordan broke his and rushed back yet he was fine.

*smile* don't ask me why I went so off topic sorry about that.
 
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That was a navicular break and because he wanted to get back and play the GF he rushed the rehab. It's one of the few bone breaks that may never heal even with surgery because it gets such little blood flow.

Michael Jordan broke his and rushed back yet he was fine.

*smile* don't ask me why I went so off topic sorry about that.
Yes, both the navicular and metatarsal bones need to be rehabbed very carefully.
 
My view (with zero facts/evidence) is Meehan lacked the balls / experience to tell dimma (on his last dance) and lynch that they needed to back off and just crossed his fingers.

The only other explanation is complete incompetence.
No, another explanation could be that they thought he'd be OK and given how important he is to the team they rolled the dice to try win early games. The start of our season was pretty rough with Top 4 quality teams, so having him for them gave us the best shot to win those early ones. We loaded up to try win a premiership this year, no doubt.

Meehan isn't a Dr. I doubt he'd be making the call on whether a player's bone structure was OK to play on. @The Big Richo - given your past experience, who'd likely be involved in making those types of decisions at the club (of course assuming the player always would want to play if they feel OK).
 
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Meehan isn't a Dr. I doubt he'd be making the call on whether a player's bone structure was OK to play on. @The Big Richo - given your past experience, who'd likely be involved in making those types of decisions at the club (of course assuming the player always would want to play if they feel OK).
This.
Fitness guys at football clubs would be getting specialist advice on injuries like this, probably from a orthopaedic specialist.
 
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This.
Fitness guys at football clubs would be getting specialist advice on injuries like this, probably from a orthopaedic specialist.
Pretty *smile* advice we are getting then.

If the potential for a 3 month injury had been
Identified then surely the decision would have been don’t play.
 
My view (with zero facts/evidence) is Meehan lacked the balls / experience to tell dimma (on his last dance) and lynch that they needed to back off and just crossed his fingers.

The only other explanation is complete incompetence.
Aren’t these decisions made by the medical staff including surgeon?

Seems to be a lot of peeps on here suggesting Meehan is running the medical department as well as the fitness department. Meehan would be advised by medical staff and lynch by surgeon etc
 
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Aren’t these decisions made by the medical staff including surgeon?

Seems to be a lot of peeps on here suggesting Meehan is running the medical department as well as the fitness department. Meehan would be advised by medical staff and lynch by surgeon etc
If you are in charge of everything you are responsible for the outcomes (good or bad). I’m assuming he is at the top of the hierarchy so if that is wrong I stand corrected.

If someone in my team made a bad recommendation / got a bad outcome then that was on me and if they did great work then I got to write it down in my review too. I was Iin charge of lots of things that I wasn’t an expert in but there are plenty of things you can still do to give your team the best chance of good outcomes.
 
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If you are in charge of everything you are responsible for the outcomes (good or bad). I’m assuming he is at the top of the hierarchy so if that is wrong I stand corrected.

If someone in my team made a bad recommendation / got a bad outcome then that was on me and if they did great work then I got to write it down in my review too. I was Iin charge of lots of things that I wasn’t an expert in but there are plenty of things you can still do to give your team the best chance of good outcomes.
I'm not sure you aren't over simplifying things.

If everyone healed at exactly the same rate and all responded to treatment identically, he'd just look up Google or a decision matrix.
The medical team are probably saying here's what's likely to happen, here's the risk of things going wrong, consequences of that, etc.
I'd guess there's then lots of heads involved in the discussion (including the player, coach, Dr, Surgeon and Meehan) about whether the risk is worth taking.
Take Lynch, if we dropped out of finals calculations completely, I reckon they'd say see you in '24. But having him at FF if we make it to September, makes a PF or a GF a chance. Not having him is an elimination final exit I reckon. Meehan would be trying to put together a fitness profile to support whatever that goal is.
 
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I'm not sure you aren't over simplifying things.

If everyone healed at exactly the same rate and all responded to treatment identically, he'd just look up Google or a decision matrix.
The medical team are probably saying here's what's likely to happen, here's the risk of things going wrong, consequences of that, etc.
I'd guess there's then lots of heads involved in the discussion (including the player, coach, Dr, Surgeon and Meehan) about whether the risk is worth taking.
Take Lynch, if we dropped out of finals calculations completely, I reckon they'd say see you in '24. But having him at FF if we make it to September, makes a PF or a GF a chance. Not having him is an elimination final exit I reckon. Meehan would be trying to put together a fitness profile to support whatever that goal is.
Absolutely - I'm talking about the earlier in the year decisions.

But at the end one person has to make a decision and live with the outcomes - that's just part of leadership and its seems something is going wrong to have both Gibcus and Lynch get massive extensions on their recovery times. Bad luck is one explanation. Bad management is another. When it happens twice I'd back the second one.
 
Absolutely - I'm talking about the earlier in the year decisions.

But at the end one person has to make a decision and live with the outcomes - that's just part of leadership and its seems something is going wrong to have both Gibcus and Lynch get massive extensions on their recovery times. Bad luck is one explanation. Bad management is another. When it happens twice I'd back the second one.
The process is the same. The people would be the same. The difference would be the level of risk taken vs the benefits perceived.
At the start of the year, if you think you're a chance for finals, but you've got some must wins early up. You take the risk, as there's time to recover.