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Most underrated player to wear yellow and black

Was afraid I've see the name Daniel Jackson who was a deadset hack, more of a reflection of how bad we were back then.
 
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Outside the club.
3 time premiership hero. Kane Lambert.
The term “star” gets put on anyone. But Lambo was an outright star. Played a lot under duress. Gee I still miss this bloke
 
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Jason Castagne twice as underrated as the second most underrated player in RFC history for me

Put the K in Chaos of the triple flag Dynasty,

Then harangued into early retirement by supporters?

He could be on the cover of

'A complete history of the greatest underrated sporting heroes of world sport'
Here's a question, underrated in what way?

Importance? Nobody's doubting it.

Chaos? Best in the game.

Culture/Richmond man? Must be elite due to popularity.

But he was also a deeply flawed footballer.

I reckon his early retirement was due to a lot of things. Partly social media and people going too far. Partly injuries. But I'd say it's also partly that the writing was on the wall with a changing game demanding more footskills and composure and he knew he'd either end up a second tier player, or a journeyman, neither of which is befitting a 3 time premiership star.
 
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Outside the club.
3 time premiership hero. Kane Lambert.
The term “star” gets put on anyone. But Lambo was an outright star. Played a lot under duress. Gee I still miss this bloke
Lambo is underrated in the sense that I'd rather have him at his prime than Sam Mitchell at his prime and everyone would call you crazy.

Ditto, I'd rather have a 2017 Shane Edwards than a 2007 Stevie J. And that's not even close.

And I really really rated Stevie J.
 
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Couglan best midfielder we had since Knights injury stopped him being an all time champion of the comp.

Justin Charles what an athlete. He was unbelievably fast for such a big bloke

Chris Naish quality small forward
I reckon you can add Nathan Foley into the Mark Coughlan category. If Foley, Coughlan and Nathan Brown had stayed injury free...who knows.
 
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Vlas is criminally underrated, has been a lynch pin to a triple premiership defence but you’d never know it
 
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Jason Castagne twice as underrated as the second most underrated player in RFC history for me

Put the K in Chaos of the triple flag Dynasty,

Then harangued into early retirement by supporters?

He could be on the cover of

'A complete history of the greatest underrated sporting heroes of world sport'

Don't forget Clutch.

For all the knocking on his kicking, he almost always kicked the clutch goal when we needed it in big games.

19' Geelong prelim x2 and 20 Geelong GF are cases in point off the top of Leysy's head.

Then the fact he was so good at flying in packs and bringing the ball to ground (basically our CHF), his cat like second efforts and vice like tackling.

Many on here also seem to think the game caught up with him.

They are almost right, but are missing one word. The gamePLAN caught up with him.

Remember George lasted longer than any other of our small forwards that basically were told to sprint everywhere all match except where the ball is going.

Very talented footballers Butler, Rioli, Higgins etc all dropped off in that position quicker than George did.

It won us 3 flags so no complaints. But there is irrefutable evidence what was asked of our small forwards wasn't sustainable. Individually anyway.
 
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One more thing to add - Dimma is on record as saying his biggest regret in coaching was not supporting George enough when he was going through a confidence slump with a cycle of poor form > supporter abuse > less confidence > worse form - late in his career.

Parts of our supporter base reminded Leysy of Essendon "fans" with Stanton, Walsh and others over the years.
 
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Castagna was forced into retirement from the rule changes more than the supporters. Pressure was his one wood. Blame SHocking for his demise.
 
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Edwards.

He darted out of the centre square in Sydney once and, sensing he was under too much pressure from a gang of Swans at both shoulders, he flipped a right hand handball backwards over his right shoulder into the path of a teammate coming off the point of the right flank into wide open space. Genius. Easily the cleverest thing that happened all day.

The call went something like ‘the ball squirts out to Lambert (or whoever it was) in space…’

Non Richmond supporters seemed incapable of seeing him. He was our very own Mr. Snuffleupagus.

Sometimes I wondered if our collective subconscious fabricated Shane to explain lucky bounces.

Underrated and literally unseen.
 
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Here's a question, underrated in what way?

Importance? Nobody's doubting it.
Ha? Then why were you calling for him to be dropped every second week?

What a hypocritical post. Stick to your guns. Don't try and revise history with the faint praise.
 
Don't forget Clutch.

For all the knocking on his kicking, he almost always kicked the clutch goal when we needed it in big games.

19' Geelong prelim x2 and 20 Geelong GF are cases in point off the top of Leysy's head.

Then the fact he was so good at flying in packs and bringing the ball to ground (basically our CHF), his cat like second efforts and vice like tackling.
Yep, never missed when they counted. And rarely missed the snaps. Not skilled? Please. Kicked goal of the year against Freo (IMO).

Crazy brave and relentless. Sadly missed.

And it's OK to not rate him, it's more pathetic to backtrack.
 
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Ha? Then why were you calling for him to be dropped every second week?

What a hypocritical post. Stick to your guns. Don't try and revise history with the faint praise.
I feel that I've always been consistent with my opinion on Castagna.

Hence the push back on the idea that he was underrated.

I never enjoyed the way he played, and at times just for my own sanity at games wanted to see what other options we could use.

It was really clear that he struggled to find a home post rule changes.

But I have always recognised his value and how his attributes typified our mantra, ethos and gameplan at the time of our premierships.

Jacob Townsend to me would be just as 'underrated' as Jason. Do we win the 2017 GF without either of them? I don't think so.

But they are what they are as footballers.
 
I feel that I've always been consistent with my opinion on Castagna.

Hence the push back on the idea that he was underrated.

I never enjoyed the way he played, and at times just for my own sanity at games wanted to see what other options we could use.

It was really clear that he struggled to find a home post rule changes.

But I have always recognised his value and how his attributes typified our mantra, ethos and gameplan at the time of our premierships.

Jacob Townsend to me would be just as 'underrated' as Jason. Do we win the 2017 GF without either of them? I don't think so.

But they are what they are as footballers.
Would take 5 minutes in the george thread to show you never valued his importance. Ever.

You and Willo were his biggest most consistent detractors. I note Willo isn't backtracking.

And doubt you ever noted how his attributes were archetypal tigers.

The only consistency was the weekly bagging. Which is fine, just don't backtrack now.
 
Jacob Townsend to me would be just as 'underrated' as Jason.
Maybe to the outside world, but will forever be a cult hero to the Tiger Faithful.

Every time a commentator calls an all time great tackle during any match, we all automatically compare it to "That Tackle" and then smile knowing nothing has come, or will ever come close to Towner's.
 
Been said before here, but Merv Keane gets my vote. 1 Brownlow vote in his entire career, despite a great body of work.
 
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Richo was one of our best ever players, but was underrated by non Richmond supporters.
 
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