Prelim Final prelude thread. Tigers v Salties

craig

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Weather forecast is hardly ever right a week out. Let's wait and see. Watch Geelong start referring to Cotchins 2017 incident wither whining defence of Hawkins. He has to go. Clear deliberate punch a long way off the ball. Only logical outcome. That's why he'll get off. They don't use logic.
Dusty got rubbed out for a week so Hawkins should as well
 

zippadeee

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I've only been browsing this forum for six months but christ you're a negative person. I really hope your actual life is better than what you project on here. God help you if it isn't.

You don't like it, dont read it
 

zippadeee

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Dangerfield went at 47% efficiency after that bump. Heard footsteps for the rest of the game
Yeah right.
Dangerfield was there worse player.
Go to bed.
The bump came when we were 5 goals up.
The bump meant nothing. No more then a good tackle or good goal.
 

tigerlove

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8 changes from our line up, most of them important players to our structure.
Not only that we had a very unsettled lineup during that period, 4 changes alone for that game, 3 the game before, 4 the game after. Cotchin had just come back and had hammy issues again during Geelong game, Dusty had a huge corky in the 2nd and was limited & Edwards also copped an injury in that game. Team is now very settled, much fitter (even Lynch) and I think we can do to them what we did in 2017, they were in it till 3/4 time and we ran all over them with our speed and constant pressure.
 
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zippadeee

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Dusty toying with Stewart on the wing was defining as well
How about the miracle man?
Cotchins goal?
Cotxhins 745 tackles?
The small forwards goal?
Rance spoil on fat guts?
Big V's mark going back?
Jacks pick up on the wing to set up Prestia?

All better then a Halleys comet moment from Ellis.
 

kiwitiger

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Not only that we had a very unsettled lineup during that period, 4 changes alone for that game, 3 the game before, 4 the game after. Cotchin had just come back and had hammy issues again during Geelong game, Dusty had a huge corky in the 2nd and was limited & Edwards also copped an injury in that game. Team is now very settled, much fitter (even Lynch) and I think we can do to them what we did in 2017, they were in it till 3/4 time and we ran all over them with our speed and constant pressure.
You only have to look at the Collingwood game early in the year , when we were close to full strength to realise we were a long way from our best .

Injuries or no injuries, we are in far better touch now.
 

Tigerfan

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Yep. Huge issues now with their structure with Hawkins out. I think they'll try and play Dangerfield forward for alot of the game. Plays into our hands imo. I am quietly confident.

In 2018 Hawkins missed 2.
Geelong won both v port and Collingwood.
The match scores in both games were below geelong’s average scores for and against.
Menegola scored 3 in one game
Horlin -Smith got 2 in the other.
They spread the scoring load through the midfield.

So expect them to try to keep the game contested and 1 on 1 rugby style.
 
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Jonesracing82

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We need to bring the heat as we did in '17 QF. They have shown they **** themselves under pressure which is why they have failed in Finals so often over the yrs.
 
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tigerlove

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In 2018 Hawkins missed 2.
Geelong won both v port and Collingwood.
The match scores in both games were below geelong’s average scores for and against.
Menegola scored 3 in one game
Horlin -Smith got 2 in the other.
They spread the scoring load through the midfield.

So expect them to try to keep the game contested and 1 on 1 rugby style.
Yes they'll have no choice but to try to get goals from different avenues. If midfield push too far forward Geelong will definitely get smashed on the rebound. Hard to push forward AND deliver the sustained efensive pressure. Menegola is struggling for form this year. Has kicked 3 goals the whole year and only 1 in his last 8 games. Horlin-Smith now at Gold Coast. Ablett is the obvious one but I have been surprised at his lack of intensity in the last two games. Doesn't want to get the hard ball and looks slow when with it. Time has caught up I'm afraid. Dangerfield is the obvious to spend more time forward which takes a way a big body from the mniddle. Kelly can kick a goal. Otherwise they're going to have to rely on Rohan and Miers. Hawkins has played every game and their forward structure revolves around him. Very difficult to restructure successfully especially in a final.
 

Don’t Argue

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I'm pretty comfortable with it.

Hardwick is a relationship coach, Scott is a game analyst.

If either side was going to produce something tactical to gain an advantage in the game it will 100% be Geelong. We will roll out our very good system and play it from start to finish.
I’d argue that Hardwick keeps reinventing our game plan and has every other team in the league attempting to copy us. Geelong went and recruited two small forwards in recognition of Richmond’s innovation. Geelong’s biggest weekness is that their game never evolves. Slow and methodical has caused them to continually fail in finals.
When you talk football analysts, I think of Clarkson. Definitely not Scott.
 
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The Big Richo

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When you talk football analysts, I think of Clarkson. Definitely not Scott.
I understand people don't like Scott as a bloke but there is no denying his record as a coach.

He has the greatest winning percentage of any coach in the history of the game that has coached 200 plus games and has made finals 8 years out of 9.

You don't build a record like that without being highly tactically capable.

That's when the cue is for his knockers to say, yeah but he was gifted a flag in his first year but that isn't true either.

Apart from the fact flags are bloody hard to win, he took over an aging team that was on the wane and had just lost the best player in the game. Have a look at the articles from that preseason and you'll see most people had Geelong as a 4-8 type team and possibly even falling out of the eight.

Like him or hate him, he will be a huge factor in the game.
 

Sintiger

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Big deal. Dangerfield was still there best player. Didn’t change the result.
It was a Nothing moment.
Dangerfield was nowhere near their best player that day. Plenty of possession and wasted most of it because of the relentless pressure. Check the replay
 

Baloo

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He has the greatest winning percentage of any coach in the history of the game that has coached 200 plus games and has made finals 8 years out of 9.
That says more about the Cats distinct homeground advantage than it does about Super Coach Salty. And he knows it hence the 3months of homeground finals wailing we've been subjected too.
 
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