Talking Politics

[AngryAnt]

I can’t remember that. Perhaps not old enough. But here lies the problem and my major frustration why can’t both the left and the right campaign?

Yeah no worries MB

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Annexation_of_Tibet_by_the_People's_Republic_of_China - 1951, but the really brutal stuff was happening for a long time and still is happening. Basically the Tibetans were being culturally subsumed by the Han Chinese, much like they are trying to eradicate Uighur culture and religion now.

 

[HR]

Don't take my dislike of the Liberal Party personally HR, it goes back to the Whitlam dismissal. The self entitled Liberals, after being in power for nearly 25 years couldn't handle not being in power anymore.

Nah i get your position on which side you take, its just the let China get away with it until someone else speaks up stuff that does my head in. We are not New Zealand after all.

 

[MB78]

Mathias Cormann 'can't wait' to start OECD job and singles out climate as key challenge

Australia’s longtime finance minister to pursue a ‘global’ approach to help countries become carbon-neutral by 2050

www.theguardian.com

Should be a good thing. I hope he does very well.

 

[tigerman]

Great Saturday night viewing in Wa. Labor are well ahead in the state election. Long held blue ribbon Liberal seats will now be held by the Labor party.

With 17% of the votes counted it's ALP 46 - Libs - 2 Nat -3.

This is almost, as good as watching the Mighty Tiger winning premierships for fun.

 

[Baloo]

Great Saturday night viewing in Wa. Labor are well ahead in the state election. Long held blue ribbon Liberal seats will now be held by the Labor party.

With 17% of the votes counted it's ALP 46 - Libs - 2 Nat -3.

This is almost, as good as watching the Mighty Tiger winning premierships for fun.

Is that because the WA Libs are as bad as the Vic Libs, or is there something else to it?

 

[Baloo]

Just did some surfing on the WA election. I don't think I've ever seen a seat won by a margin like this before. It's ridiculous. 92% of the two party preferred vote.......

 

[tigerman]

Is that because the WA Libs are as bad as the Vic Libs, or is there something else to it?

McGowan's hard border made him very popular, the leader of the opposition made a mistake by criticising it and saying it should be reopened. She resigned a couple of months before the election and was replaced by a young inexperience guy. That's it in a nutshell basically.

 

[22nd Man]

Phenominal result in WA. Who says polls can't be trusted any longer?
We will watch from the East to see if Australia's first? One party govt is a model for others to follow.

Is there a way Victoiria can go to the polls ahead of schedule eg double dissolution or some other pretext so ALP can replicate the WA trouncing? Both premiers had mass public approval so I would expect something very similar.

WA posters - did the Murdoch press and other media puppets undermine McGowan and if so why do you think they couldn't land a blow there?

 

[22nd Man]

McGowan's hard border made him very popular, the leader of the opposition made a mistake by criticising it and saying it should be reopened. She resigned a couple of months before the election and was replaced by a young inexperience guy. That's it in a nutshell basically.

Mate of mine is married to a WA native and was there for three weeks over Chistmas NY. Said life was if COVId never occurred.

From our perspective seems McGiwan only made one decision (or series of same decision) : close /open / close / border to respective states. (Maybe his other decision was to engineer the global iron price hike to generate the rivers of cash to keep the state thriving)

 

[22nd Man]

Just did some surfing on the WA election. I don't think I've ever seen a seat won by a margin like this before. It's ridiculous. 92% of the two party preferred vote.......

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The Green would be embarrassed..... Or maybe they aren't embraced as broadly as in the East? No namby pambies tolerated by WA Inc?

 

[MB78]

Is that because the WA Libs are as bad as the Vic Libs, or is there something else to it?

The Victorian Libs leader is terrible. They need to elect a new leader as soon a possible and that person it Richard Riordan. He talks a lot of sense on most topics and asks the hard questions in the committees he sits on. While the Libs have O’Brien and Tim Smith getting the headlines they have zero hope.

We do need a very strong opposition regardless of who you vote for to make the government of the day more accountable.

 

[tigerman]

Mate of mine is married to a WA native and was there for three weeks over Chistmas NY. Said life was if COVId never occurred.

Yes apart from from the first few months, and a snap 5 day lock down a month or so ago it's been life as normal.
Like being in war time, it wasn't a good time to be a political opposition party.

 

[artball]

The WA election result goes a little further than it being a Covid result and federal LNP, despite knowing they were going to lose, wouldn't have predicted such a shellacing.
Some of those seats Labour gained were very set in stone LIberal gimmes and very wealthy demographics.

 

[MD Jazz]

While the Libs have O’Brien and Tim Smith getting the headlines they have zero hope.

We do need a very strong opposition regardless of who you vote for to make the government of the day more accountable.

Yeh, the Vic libs are pretty much a non-event. Whilst they endorse behaviour from guys like Smith they will remain a joke.

 

[tigerman]

WA posters - did the Murdoch press and other media puppets undermine McGowan and if so why do you think they couldn't land a blow there?

With 90% of West Australians supporting McGowan's hard border, and a budget surplus of $3.1 billion the media didn't try too hard, they knew they'd be peeing into the wind.

 

[tigerman]

Some of those seats Labour gained were very set in stone LIberal gimmes and very wealthy demographics.

I'm amazed that the seat of Nedlands has fallen to Labor, it's the bluest of blue ribbon liberal party seats. Sir Charles Court and his son Richard held it for 50 years, it includes the suburb of Dalkeith which has a median annual income of $200,000 according to the last census. Gobsmacked!!.

 

[spook]

I went to the Women's March4Justice rally at Treasury Gardens this afternoon. Thousands there. Incredibly powerful. Emotional. I nearly lost it a few times and don't mind admitting a few tears escaped - and more are now as I write this - for my sister, my ex-wife, my friends, for all the beautiful young girls, brave women and strong old ladies who have suffered trauma at the hands of men and have been fighting this *smile* forever. To see women of all ages, from schoolgirls to very old women, declaring #enoughisenoough was inspiring and heart-breaking at the same time.

Albanese spoke powerfully and with genuine empathy and understanding in parliament after meeting the marchers. Morrison cowered in his office then basically said they were lucky they weren't shot.

The tide surely must turn. We owe these women. All of us. All of them.

 

[Brodders17]

I went to the Women's March4Justice rally at Treasury Gardens this afternoon. Thousands there. Incredibly powerful. Emotional. I nearly lost it a few times and don't mind admitting a few tears escaped - and more are now as I write this - for my sister, my ex-wife, my friends, for all the beautiful young girls, brave women and strong old ladies who have suffered trauma at the hands of men and have been fighting this *smile* forever. To see women of all ages, from schoolgirls to very old women, declaring #enoughisenoough was inspiring and heart-breaking at the same time.

Albanese spoke powerfully and with genuine empathy and understanding in parliament after meeting the marchers. Morrison cowered in his office then basically said they were lucky they weren't shot.

The tide surely must turn. We owe these women. All of us. All of them.

tho some may claim women have achieved equality, i think we need a thread about feminism and why it still needed in today's world.

 

[Baloo]

tho some may claim women have achieved equality, i think we need a thread about feminism and why it still needed in today's world.

#menslivesmatter

 

[artball]

I went to the Women's March4Justice rally at Treasury Gardens this afternoon. Thousands there. Incredibly powerful. Emotional. I nearly lost it a few times and don't mind admitting a few tears escaped - and more are now as I write this - for my sister, my ex-wife, my friends, for all the beautiful young girls, brave women and strong old ladies who have suffered trauma at the hands of men and have been fighting this *smile* forever. To see women of all ages, from schoolgirls to very old women, declaring #enoughisenoough was inspiring and heart-breaking at the same time.

Albanese spoke powerfully and with genuine empathy and understanding in parliament after meeting the marchers. Morrison cowered in his office then basically said they were lucky they weren't shot.

The tide surely must turn. We owe these women. All of us. All of them.

it was powerful stuff Spook. Morrison has no feeling for the (any) situation. I don't get it because surely it would be good for him and his party to show empathy and consideration at what is an extremely delicate and important time.