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Talking Politics
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Before election: 69 seats
After Election: 77 seats
Yet somehow their worst result since the 30's? You're really struggling
Dan Andrews went alright in the Victorian election, despite your predictions.
We fact checked Barnaby Joyce on Labor's primary vote. Here's what we found
Former deputy prime minister Barnaby Joyce says Labor's primary vote at the 2022 election was its lowest since 1910. Is that correct? RMIT ABC Fact Check investigates.
www.abc.net.au
Yeah he went alright in the metro areas ,but the country areas he didn't,quite a bit of a divide in Victoria
We fact checked Barnaby Joyce on Labor's primary vote. Here's what we found
Former deputy prime minister Barnaby Joyce says Labor's primary vote at the 2022 election was its lowest since 1910. Is that correct? RMIT ABC Fact Check investigates.
@IanG told me not too but it's too easy.
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The result of the election is Labor are in Government and increase their seats from 69 to 77. That's the result. But you're still trying to claim it's their worst result since the 30s?
Must be a good Premier, Melburnians were locked down for a couple of years, but still voted for him.
.Still there worst primary result since the 1930's .
Seeing that you replied to my previous votes ,you would know that l was talking about primary votes
Still there worst primary result since the 1930's .
Seeing that you replied to my previous votes ,you would know that l was talking about primary votes
No, I've been correcting you all along that focusing on primary voting means nothing. It's looking at the 1/4 score and declaring the winner. I thought you were a bit brighter than you obviously are, my mistake. I won't make it again.
Here you go, some homework. It'll stop you embarrassing yourself in the future, maybe. It might be an idea to know how elections work in Australia before trying to debate them.
Instant-runoff voting - Wikipedia
Still there worst primary result since the 1930's .
Seeing that you replied to my previous votes ,you would know that l was talking about primary votes
Ok, I'll bite.
Libs worst ever primary vote, ever, in the history of the Libs, which of course only goes back to 1949.
Coalition vote 3.8% lower than in 1998, their previous worst.
No wonder they lost, apart from the fact they are a bunch of self-serving arseholes with a leader who was about as popular, and as useful, as a fresh *smile* on a pavement.
I'll just sit back end enjoy the fact I have an independent local member in a seat that the Libs should win even with a deceased candidate, FFS, they could run an orangutang in my seat and still should win.
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Anyone with half a brain would know what lm talking about ,but no not you ,you have to keep blabbing off and going around in circles ,and having your little cheap shots to make yourself feel better.No, I've been correcting you all along that focusing on primary voting means nothing. It's looking at the 1/4 score and declaring the winner. I thought you were a bit brighter than you obviously are, my mistake. I won't make it again.
Here you go, some homework. It'll stop you embarrassing yourself in the future, maybe. It might be an idea to know how elections work in Australia before trying to debate them.
Instant-runoff voting - Wikipedia
en.wikipedia.org
If l support the coalition at any election ,l will put them FIRST,not second or third ,and then put in my preferences for who l think should be SECOND,THIRD etc etc .
A primary vote is the “number one” vote cast by an elector in an Australian ballot.
Labor got their lowest primary vote since the 1930's .
They actually got lower primary votes than they did in 2019,Shorten was a more popular first pick
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You can't keep pushing it purely on the ALP though. It was a poor 1st preference performance from BOTH major parties, not just the ALP, the LNP were frankly awful from a first preference also but you seem to be pushing an agenda. Balance your post and people might take you seriously.
Sin tried to point you in this direction, you agreed with him, and then diverted back to your base point, which is frankly pointless. You argue that the ALP got a poor 1st preference, but it was the same for both major parties, as there was such a swing to independents. As Sin points out, unfortunately at this stage, it seems both major parties are ignoring this and not addressing the electorates concerns with the direction that BOTH parties are going in.
Comparing primary votes between any election is a but nonsensical, there are many factors- did they run candidates in every seat? did they try in every seat? how many candidates were there in each seat? how many viable candidates were there in each seat? how many of those candidates were competing with Labor for primary votes?
obviously more and more people are voting for minor parties/independents now, some because they dont want either major party to be in government, other because it is "cool", and for others it is a "protest" vote of sorts but knowing that either Labor or the Libs will still form government.
at the end of the day Labor achieved their aim- they won with a big majority, and if they do a decent job have set themselves up for a long stint in government, regardless of their primary vote.
We agree @bengal tigers , anyone with only half a brain would think 1st preference are the be all and end all of an election in Australia.
You and Barnaby Joyce have that in common.
You and Barnaby Joyce have that in common.
Bengal seems surprised that rural Australia tend to vote Nat/Libs. It's been like that for about a hundred years Bengal
I think the point should be that politics in general is on the nose and many people are voting for the best of the worst. If it wasn’t mandatory I wonder what our participation would be.
So if I’m not a labor voter my choice is crazy right wing religious no accountability and transparency liberal, crash the world no pragmatic bone green or well credentialed but no power to make change independent or crazy nationalist or silly party / donkey vote.
I ended up voting independent and preferenced labor.
Labor seems to have made a pretty good start but they didn’t have to do much to do better than the previous guys.
So if I’m not a labor voter my choice is crazy right wing religious no accountability and transparency liberal, crash the world no pragmatic bone green or well credentialed but no power to make change independent or crazy nationalist or silly party / donkey vote.
I ended up voting independent and preferenced labor.
Labor seems to have made a pretty good start but they didn’t have to do much to do better than the previous guys.
Thanks for that high level analysis. No wonder you are having trouble figuring out what's going on.
